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Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”

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TheClaws · 16/12/2017 06:25

Roman Emperor Nero wrote the above in a manual titled ‘Care of the Hair’. Nero was tyrannical, vain and cruel, and thought little of the lives of others. He also liked to erect buildings and carve his name into them. Smile if only we could learn well from the past.

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lionheart · 17/12/2017 17:03

That clip is brilliant though.

cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 17:08

.....and when you recall that the questioner is a Republican?

cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 17:09

Sorry. And a 45 supporter.........

AcrossthePond55 · 17/12/2017 17:39

Re the emails. We need to remember that we're dealing with people who have always been able to either bluster, bully, or bribe their way out of any situation. This is the first time any of them are really facing someone who is saying, paraphrasing the words of Homey the Clown; "I don't think so, Mueller don't play that".

OuaisMaisBon · 17/12/2017 17:54

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson
30m30 minutes ago

Seth Abramson Retweeted Sarah Sanders

Trump and Putin have spoken twice in the last few days. Jared is hiring a crisis management firm. Trump's attorneys are meeting with Mueller to demand the exoneration of their client. Trump may fire Mueller on Friday, per a DC rumor. Feel free to see all these facts as unrelated.
Sarah Sanders‏Verified account @PressSec

Sarah Sanders Retweeted Zeke Miller

Can confirm @POTUS and President Putin spoke today. Readout from the WH coming shortly.

Roussette · 17/12/2017 18:57

Brian Krassenstein 🐬‏
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Here's a prediction:

Over the next 1-6 weeks (I'm thinking closer to 1) Trump will have Muller fired.

Mass protests will take place around the nation, bringing the economy to a halt, just as the GOP forces a gov shutdown.

Stocks will drop 15%, Bitcoin will continue to soar.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:06

The same bitcoin that Russia is a fan of as it allows them to circumvent sanctions?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:13

Rep. Eric Swalwell
@RepSwalwell
#BREAKING @realDonaldTrump objects to Mueller obtaining video of his obstruction of justice admission to @LesterHoltNBC. Worries his tweets may also be used as evidence.

lionheart · 17/12/2017 19:13

Washington Post

Murdoch

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:15

Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Putin phoned Trump to thank him for CIA intel that foiled a planned terrorist attack in Russia, the Kremlin says

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/world/wp/2017/12/17/putin-phoned-trump-to-thank-him-for-cia-intel-that-foiled-a-planned-terrorist-attack-in-russia-the-kremlin-says/#click=t.co/UoXQbIjeWx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/world/wp/2017/12/17/putin-phoned-trump-to-thank-him-for-cia-intel-that-foiled-a-planned-terrorist-attack-in-russia-the-kremlin-says/#click=t.co/UoXQbIjeWx

AcrossthePond55 · 17/12/2017 19:16

Mass protests will take place around the nation, bringing the economy to a halt, just as the GOP forces a gov shutdown.

And this is exactly why IF it's happening, it's all being timed for Friday, the 'starting day' of the two week period of Christmas & NY. People are going to be away from their political 'home turf', families aren't going to want other family members deserting the festivities to go protest, traveling to/from major protests is going to be difficult unless you're driving, people aren't watching the MSM or SM as much, and that general feeling of 'it's the holidays I can't be arsed'. The Scrotus Gang is counting on all this to do their dirty work without a lot of public attention and to put the kibosh on any type of major disruptions.

I'm currently sitting in my foxhole, peering over the edge into no man's land. I can hear rumbling but don't see anything. The 'enemy' has assured me no attack Mueller firing is imminent. But I'm on alert none the less. Something is going to happen Friday. I'm just not sure what it is!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:21
Hmm
Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:33

Amy Siskind weekly update:

m.facebook.com/amy.siskind/posts/10214718941552297

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 19:36

Swawell’s tweet was a joke, in case that wasn’t clear, because quite frankly it seems like nothing is beyond this administration.

cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 19:55

Thanks for the Siskind update, Pain. (And the Bigly clarification on Swalwell. Nothing is beyond 45 it seems...........)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 20:20

Sen. John McCain returns to Arizona, will miss vote on GOP tax bill

www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sen-john-mccain-returns-to-arizona-will-miss-vote-on-gop-tax-bill/?__twitter_impression=true

cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 20:25

Fare thee well, John McCain.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 20:34

Topher Spiro‏Verified account
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With McCain missing the vote, Corker’s unexplained flip flop becomes critical—potentially the deciding vote. This should bring extreme, heightened scrutiny to the #CorkerKickback.

[To recap what the CorkerKickback is:

Senator Bob Corker Said He Hasn’t Read The Tax Bill, Denies Changing His Vote In Exchange For Personal Tax Breaks

www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/senator-bob-corker-said-he-hasnt-read-tax-bill-denies-changing-his-vote-exchange

Andy Slavitt‏Verified account
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This is a huge deal. It amounts to theft of our treasury in the tax bill by the President & Bob Corker. This needs much broader reporting.

Topher Spiro‏Verified account
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It's astounding that @JohnCornyn admitted to inserting the #CorkerKickback to buy votes.

David Sirota‏Verified account
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BREAKING: Sen. @JohnCornyn tells @ThisWeekABC that last-minute provision enriching @SenBobCorker & other GOP lawmakers was added to the tax bill as part of an effort to “cobble together the votes we needed to get this bill passed”

Ady Barkan‏
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#CorkerKickback exemplifies what Americans find disgusting about politicians.

By retiring @SenBobCorker freed himself from need to cater to Trump.

He promised he wouldn't vote for a deficit increase.

Then traded his leverage for cold hard $$$.

Corruption is shameful. ]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 22:23

Amy Siskind‏Verified account
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Is there a reason why passing along intelligence, supposedly, would require the second call between Trump and Putin in four days? Just as Mueller is getting closer to discoveries with cooperating witnesses etc ?

Asha Rangappa‏Verified account
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THREAD. It's worth pointing out that Mueller's investigation is as much a threat to Putin as to Trump. If it uncovers illegal acts on the part of Russians – incl financial crimes, or hacking – there could be some oligarchs who stand to go to jail (or never step foot in US again).

  1. Remember that the big issue Russia has with U.S. is the Magnitsky Act, which prohibits many oligarchs from entering the U.S. and using it as their playground as punishment for their participation in human rights abuses.
  2. This why Russia retaliated by prohibiting Americans from adopting Russian children.(Bc obviously the ppl you punish are childless couples and Russian orphans desperate for a home.)
  3. The whole "it was about adoptions" charade regarding that sketchy Trump Tower meeting was really about getting rid of Magnitsky.
  4. The Q to ask is, why is POTUS so keen on keeping Putin happy? Repealing sanctions? Reluctantly signing new ones (and never enforcing them)? Making sure he never publicly criticizes Putin?
  5. This has also included the (unrecorded?) phone call in Oval Office after election. Inviting Russian foreign minister and press (but not U.S.) to Oval Office. Sharing intel from an ally w Russia without ally's permission.
  6. ...Meeting w Putin with no one else present at G-20. Even considering a "joint cyber agreement" w Russia (after they hacked out election!). And now these weird two calls and press release w exclamation point.
  7. Even if you give POTUS the full BOD that he knew nothing of Russia's activities during election, all of this behavior does not add up in any rational way. Unless he is afraid. Of something that Putin knows or has from even before the election.
  8. This is what I, @john_sipher, and @alexzfinley try to detail in our piece here:

Collusion Doesn’t Have to Be Criminal

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/12/the_possibility_that_trump_is_in_putin_s_pocket_is_scarier_than_any_crimes.html

  1. FWIW, any "normal" gov employee w TS/SCI clearance has to make extensive financial disclosures precisely bc you never want anyone to be able to exploit a vulnerability, or have leverage over you.
  2. Point being: Putin has reasons to be really concerned about Mueller, and even if just that – and not protecting his campaign – is motivating POTUS' desire to shut it down, it still points to some big q's about how objectively this admin can be protecting our nat'l security.

Christopher O'Riley‏Verified account
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very important thread, thank you, @AshaRangappa_
it's likely the latest phone bromance between P&T is seeking to assure Putin that Mueller's a nutjob he'll soon be rid of. And let's not forget the rash of Russian assassinations in direct response to the Steele Dossier release.

Asha Rangappa‏Verified account
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Right. How could I forget the assassinations? God I need a drink. 😵🍷

Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 22:32

Manu Raju‏Verified account
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Trump says McCain will come back to Washington "if we need his vote"

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/12/2017 22:34

For what it's worth (which is nothing)

The Associated Press‏Verified account
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BREAKING: After returning from Camp David, Trump says he's not planning to fire special counsel Robert Mueller

10:01 pm - 17 Dec 2017

TheClaws · 17/12/2017 22:58

Following on from Pain’s tweet above. Trump says he isn’t considering firing Mueller, so I reckon batten down the hatches. He is. Rosenstein will do it.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/365364-trump-says-he-is-not-considering-firing-mueller

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cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 22:58

I still don't think he will. Not on the 22nd anyway.

TheClaws · 17/12/2017 23:02

No, it won’t be when it is expected. He knows it will trigger a constitutional crisis; he isn’t that naive. But he will have plans in place - devised by others - for when it occurs.

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cozietoesie · 17/12/2017 23:11

He's between a rock and a hard place. Quite genuinely.

This really isn't how he thought it was all going to be. About his only option is to ........develop a ........heart condition (say) which requires him to stand down but still allows him to eg play golf.

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