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Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”

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TheClaws · 16/12/2017 06:25

Roman Emperor Nero wrote the above in a manual titled ‘Care of the Hair’. Nero was tyrannical, vain and cruel, and thought little of the lives of others. He also liked to erect buildings and carve his name into them. Smile if only we could learn well from the past.

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Alwaysinmyheart · 24/12/2017 11:40

Just wanted to share this article, great photos showing the diversity of some of the great people protesting against Trump this year!

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/one-nation-under-protest/

CornwallLass · 24/12/2017 11:52

Re-delurking to say a very big Thank You to all the regular posters on here. It is easy to feel swamped by the swamp, but on here I read daily articles giving perspectives from around the world and from many different standpoints showing how the small acts can make a difference. It gives me hope and keeps me going in the dark times. So thank you, all you fabulous people helping keep the rest of us informed. I'm sure we all do our bit in informing those we have personal contact with, but you go above and beyond. Happy Christmas. Resist. Light a candle. And still curse the darkness that remains!

PerkingFaintly · 24/12/2017 12:50

Brew all round. Not much energy to talk at the moment, but am still reading.

Pain, I think it was, thank you very much for the article way above about Russian-supported groups smearing the White Helmets. I'd come across some of the smearing, and couldn't unpack what was going on. But the fact they were carrying cameras and documenting attacks - including by Russian-supported forces - suddenly makes sense of that.

Lweji · 24/12/2017 13:12

that actually starts to paint an awful picture when you consider the rest of the landscape.

I agree. It is awful. And if often comes from people you didn'd expect to.

It's an entire culture that needs to be challenged. And we should challenge and point the finger at every single instance. I just don't think we should dismiss every single person who has said any misogynistic thing. Certainly say "that's not good", "that's wrong", call them out, but also allow them to grow.
It's something that seems beyond some people's capability or, more importantly, willingness, though, and those are the ones we should be worried about.

lionheart · 24/12/2017 13:21

Hello CornwallLass. Smile

Guns and judges.

Ed Krassenstein‏
@EdKrassen

Giffords Law Center has filed a lawsuit earlier this week after the Trump Administration refused to disclose records showing the extent of the their coordination w/ the NRA in the selection of nominees for lifetime appointments to federal judgeships.

lionheart · 24/12/2017 13:25

The winner in the worse than Scrooge category.

'President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.'

www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-mar-a-lago-christmas-trip/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/12/2017 14:03

Breaking my self-imposed moratorium to wish all you lovelies a very Happy Christmas/Holiday and strength to us all to keep on persisting in 2018.

And don't forget to keep your eyes peeled incase there's a sneaky Trump visit to the UK to open the new US Embassy Feb 26/27th!

Dunlurking · 24/12/2017 14:13

Joining CornwallLass in also re-delurking to say Happy Christmas and a huge thank you to all you wonderful posters who keep us up to date with events in Trump's swamp. Maybe we all have some good news soon, and in the meantime, wishing Peace to the World for Christmas.

ImtheChristmasCarcass · 24/12/2017 14:29

We have broken out the Christmas Cheer a little early (it's just after 6 am here) after watching the early news AND hearing about Scrotus' "You just got richer" comment. Once again, all I can say is 'that comment just about sums him up'. A phrase I keep repeating over and over.

And so, I'm going to have to text DS1 (our wine expert) and tell him that he'll have to bring more bottles of my favourite red wine because what he dropped off will shortly be gone. And yes, I do find it ironic that the name of the wine is "The Prisoner". So let's all raise a glass and give a toast;

"Here's to a different kind of 'Prisoner' in 2018. Drink it up and Lock him up!!"

🎅🏼🎅🏼🎅🏼🍷🍷🍷🎄🎄🎄

cozietoesie · 24/12/2017 14:31

Wine at just past 6 am? I'm in awe. Your stamina! Grin

Roussette · 24/12/2017 14:52

Welcome dunlurking and CornwallLass ! I've just taken 5 minutes off from stuffing a turkey to catch up on here Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/12/2017 15:00

It seems churlish to ruin the Christmas spirit by posting about North Korea so instead have a little Christmas stocking filler

FBI investigates Russian-linked Cyprus bank accused of money laundering

Request for financial information may be connected to inquiries into possible conspiracy between Trump and Kremlin

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/24/fbi-investigates-russian-linked-cyprus-bank-accused-of-money-laundering?__twitter_impression=true

And I’ll also leave you with a little Christmas Eve poem

Chris Sampson
@TAPSTRIMEDIA
Twas the night before Christmas, when through the White House
Not a Kushner was resting, not even his spouse;
The documents were hung by the shredder with care,
In fears that Bob Mueller soon would be there;
The staffers were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of subpoenas danced in their heads;
And Melania in her babushka, and Trump in his cap,
Flew to Mar-a-Lago for a long winter's nap,
When on the TV there remained such a matter,
There was Brennan, Podesta and man named Jim Clapper.
With bribes fresh in hand, they flew like the flash,
The greedy corporations did suck up the cash.
The Congress rejoiced the records will show
Feigned promises of riches to the peasants below,
When, what to amazement FoxNews should appear,
Took aim at Bob Mueller, with permission to smear,
With disinfo flying, so rapid and thick,
I knew in a moment it must be Bolshevik.
More rapid than vultures his hackers they came,
And they posted and trolled, as they sought to defame;
"Now, Fancy! now, Cozy! now, Seaduke and BlackEnergy!
On, Havex! on Sandworm! on, Skipper and CrouchingYeti!
To the DNC server! Past the paper's firewall!
Now exfiltrate, exfiltrate, exfiltrate all!"
Then the Kremlin called Julian, their reliable guy,
To leak to the world, the docs that they plied,
And the Stone who was named Roger bragged on it too,
With the dirty tricks methods that Vladi knew.
And they carried on lying that there was never the proof,
They fogged and distracted and acted aloof.
But their plan would unravel, spin wild to the ground,
And the FBI went digging and looking all around.
Then came the big man, he was Special Counsel to be,
And he hired top lawyers, and then empaneled grand jury;
There were interviews and hearings, this man would not slack,
And he pressed forward justly, with a determined knack.
His eyes were like eagles, they missed not a thing,
His presence was heavy, his targets would sing!
His sleuthing was famous, if you must know,
And his integrity was solid, like the ground below;
The facts that were surfaced he held tight in his teeth,
And as he dug for truth morsels that were buried beneath;
He was focused on the crooked, the wretched and smelly,
They did shake full of fear as we watched on the tele.
He questioned each of them from the son to the elf,
And I rejoiced at the justice, then I thought to myself;
Under orange little man with weird hair on his head,
The great justice of America was certainly not dead,
He did push and did pull but it just would not work,
And did hit Twitter daily, to act like a jerk,
And he threw little tizzy fits, like a toddler in chief,
But we saw he was crooked, though no ordinary thief;
Though it took time, and labor we could would no longer bristle,
As we finally saw Congress call for his dismissal.
And as justice was served, he was hauled out of sight,
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!

lionheart · 24/12/2017 15:11

I'll just put this here but I have not watched it because I am aiming for a 'goodwill to all men' Gin vibe and this chap just gets in the way:

www.rawstory.com/2017/12/we-say-christmas-again-very-proudly-trump-praises-himself-in-video-conference-troops-from-mar-a-lago/

cozietoesie · 24/12/2017 16:25

Well I have Gin, and a full bottle of Ribena. I intend to have a Merry Xmas. Grin

lionheart · 24/12/2017 17:06

A bigly yes to that. Smile

lionheart · 24/12/2017 18:47

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

.@FoxNews-FBI’s Andrew McCabe, “in addition to his wife getting all of this money from M (Clinton Puppet), he was using, allegedly, his FBI Official Email Account to promote her campaign. You obviously cannot do this. These were the people who were investigating Hillary Clinton.”

Sally Yates @SallyQYates
2h
Sally Yates Retweeted Donald J. Trump

This on Christmas Eve? Secret Service, be on the look out for three ghosts visiting Mar-a-Lago tonight.

Xmas Smile
badbadhusky · 24/12/2017 19:18

Love love LOVE Sally Yates. Also enjoying Comey’s high class literary trolling of the Trumpoon. Grin

lionheart · 24/12/2017 20:18

Me too. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/12/2017 21:00
Grin

mobile.twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/944609348281651200/video/1

lionheart · 24/12/2017 21:23
Smile
Roussette · 24/12/2017 22:57

A festive tweet for you... and a Happy Christmas to you all Xmas Grin

Chris Sampson‏
@TAPSTRIMEDIA
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Twas the night before Christmas, when through the White House
Not a Kushner was resting, not even his spouse;
The documents were hung by the shredder with care,
In fears that Bob Mueller soon would be there; 1/14
The staffers were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of subpoenas danced in their heads;
And Melania in her babushka, and Trump in his cap,
Flew to Mar-a-Lago for a long winter's nap, 2/14
When on the TV there remained such a matter,
There was Brennan, Podesta and man named Jim Clapper.
With bribes fresh in hand, they flew like the flash,
The greedy corporations did suck up the cash. 3/14
The Congress rejoiced the records will show
Feigned promises of riches to the peasants below,
When, what to amazement FoxNews should appear,
Took aim at Bob Mueller, with permission to smear, 4/14
With disinfo flying, so rapid and thick,
I knew in a moment it must be Bolshevik.
More rapid than vultures his hackers they came,
And they posted and trolled, as they sought to defame; 5/14
"Now, Fancy! now, Cozy! now, Seaduke and BlackEnergy!
On, Havex! on Sandworm! on, Skipper and CrouchingYeti!
To the DNC server! Past the paper's firewall!
Now exfiltrate, exfiltrate, exfiltrate all!" 6/14
Then the Kremlin called Julian, their reliable guy,
To leak to the world, the docs that they plied,
And the Stone who was named Roger bragged on it too,
With the dirty tricks methods that Vladi knew. 7/14
And they carried on lying that there was never the proof,
They fogged and distracted and acted aloof.
But their plan would unravel, spin wild to the ground,
And the FBI went digging and looking all around. 8/14
Then came the big man, he was Special Counsel to be,
And he hired top lawyers, and then empaneled grand jury;
There were interviews and hearings, this man would not slack,
And he pressed forward justly, with a determined knack. 9/14
His eyes were like eagles, they missed not a thing,
His presence was heavy, his targets would sing!
His sleuthing was famous, if you must know,
And his integrity was solid, like the ground below; 10/14
The facts that were surfaced he held tight in his teeth,
And as he dug for truth morsels that were buried beneath;
He was focused on the crooked, the wretched and smelly,
They did shake full of fear as we watched on the tele. 11/14
He questioned each of them from the son to the elf,
And I rejoiced at the justice, then I thought to myself;
Under orange little man with weird hair on his head,
The great justice of America was certainly not dead,
12/14
He did push and did pull but it just would not work,
And did hit Twitter daily, to act like a jerk,
And he threw little tizzy fits, like a toddler in chief,
But we saw he was crooked, though no ordinary thief; 13/14
Though it took time, and labor we could would no longer bristle,
As we finally saw Congress call for his dismissal.
And as justice was served, he was hauled out of sight,
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT! 14/14

cozietoesie · 24/12/2017 23:10

Merry Xmas to all. And as I've started on the spirituous liquor, the siren call of the Big Bible grows ever stronger. So - normal rules apply - if I start intoning verses from Revelation, ignore the posts. Wink

TheClaws · 24/12/2017 23:16

It’s Christmas where I am, so best wishes everyone. It has been an honour keeping these threads going with you all. Hopefully, though, we won’t need to do it for much longer - I know you share that wish with me.

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