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Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”

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TheClaws · 16/12/2017 06:25

Roman Emperor Nero wrote the above in a manual titled ‘Care of the Hair’. Nero was tyrannical, vain and cruel, and thought little of the lives of others. He also liked to erect buildings and carve his name into them. Smile if only we could learn well from the past.

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badbadhusky · 23/12/2017 07:55

Would the location of interviews be affected by state vs federal charges?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 08:45

I think the point is that there isn't a reason for having it in New York other than making it harder for committee members to attend. That’s my understanding anyway. The republicans are trying to discredit comeys corroborating witnesses as they’re crucial to the obstruction case against trump. Maddow covers some of it here

Trump partner with mob ties interviewed out of range of Democrats www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-partner-with-mob-ties-interviewed-out-of-range-of-democrats-1122891843739

And here

GOP attacking witnesses to head off Trump obstruction case www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-attacking-witnesses-to-head-off-trump-obstruction-case-1122904131703

And here

Top FBI lawyer James Baker reassigned without explanation www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/top-fbi-lawyer-james-baker-reassigned-without-explanation-1122923075640

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 08:49

Sorry, sater and Graff aren’t corroborating witnesses for
Comey but they are key witnesses as they had lots of exposure to the trumps and the trumps’ business dealings. The first of the maddow links sets out how entwined they are and how much information they could potentially shed light on

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 08:50

We’ve flagged this up on these threads before but it’s escalating enough that Nato are bringing back Cold War measures

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 08:54

Prematurely posted

Russian submarines are prowling around vital undersea cables. It’s making NATO nervous.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/europe/russian-submarines-are-prowling-around-vital-undersea-cables-its-making-nato-nervous/2017/12/22/d4c1f3da-e5d0-11e7-927a-e72eac1e73b6_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.56ece462996a&__twitter_impression=true

BRUSSELS — Russian submarines have dramatically stepped up ­activity around undersea data ­cables in the North Atlantic, part of a more aggressive naval posture that has driven NATO to revive a Cold War-era command, according to senior military officials.

The apparent Russian focus on the cables, which provide Internet and other communications connections to North America and Europe, could give the Kremlin the power to sever or tap into vital data lines, the officials said. Russian submarine activity has increased to levels unseen since the Cold War, they said, sparking hunts in recent months for the elusive watercraft.

"We are now seeing Russian underwater activity in the vicinity of undersea cables that I don't believe we have ever seen," said U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Andrew Lennon, the commander of NATO's submarine forces. "Russia is clearly taking an interest in NATO and NATO nations' undersea infrastructure."

NATO has responded with plans to reestablish a command post, shuttered after the Cold War, to help secure the North Atlantic. NATO allies are also rushing to boost anti-submarine warfare capabilities and to develop advanced submarine- ­detecting planes.

Britain's top military commander also warned that Russia could imperil the cables that form the backbone of the modern global economy. The privately owned lines, laid along the some of the same corridors as the first transatlantic telegraph wire in 1858, carry nearly all of the communications on the Internet, facilitating trillions of dollars of daily trade. If severed, they could snarl the Web. If tapped, they could give Russia a valuable picture of the tide of the world's Internet traffic.

"It's a pattern of activity, and it's a vulnerability," said British Air Chief Marshal Stuart Peach, in an interview.

"Can you imagine a scenario where those cables are cut or disrupted, which would immediately and potentially catastrophically affect both our economy and other ways of living if they were disrupted?" Peach said in a speech in London this month.

The Russian Defense Ministry did not respond to a request for comment about the cables.

The Russian sea activity comes as the Kremlin has also pressed against NATO in the air and on land. Russian jets routinely clip NATO airspace in the Baltics, and troops drilled near NATO territory in September.

[this is only an excerpt from a long piece but the rest is interesting and very detailed]

PerkingFaintly · 23/12/2017 09:56

Time to start moving essential business data out of the cloud and onto servers nearer geographically, I'd say.

It's all very well pushing the technological envelope and moving vital functions onto someone else's servers on the other side of the world, and relying on superfast comms to make it all work.

But it introduces vulnerabilities that didn't exist before. Which will become horribly apparent the moment something happens to an undersea cable or a satellite.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 10:00

Re:politico’s piece on James Baker: Politico have also recently come under fire for doing another piece that doesnt stand up to much scrutiny.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/12/21/former-obama-officials-criticize-politico-story-alleging-weakness-against-hezbollah/#click=t.co/V3epJRL69U" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/12/21/former-obama-officials-criticize-politico-story-alleging-weakness-against-hezbollah/#click=t.co/V3epJRL69U

Also

Adam Khan
@Khanoisseur

  1. This Politico piece (dramatically titled "The Secret Backstory of How Obama Let Hezbollah off the Hook") takes way too long to note (several paragraphs in) that there is actually no evidence that Obama undermined any efforts in order to not rock the Iran nuclear deal.

Rest of thread here mobile.twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/942620372599414784

Also more threads here:

Adam Khan
@Khanoisseur
Replying to @rptowne and @jadler1969
The Politico piece has been dismantled several times! Writer repeatedly refuses to answer why he didn’t include affiliations/agendas of sources he cited (see: twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/943245790398386176

twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/943325194826813446

mobile.twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/943490899648004099

PerkingFaintly · 23/12/2017 11:38

Sorry, I didn't quite make sense there. Obv you can have geographically nearby cloud servers. But currently a lot of people simply don't ask the questions of WHERE is my data? What physical routes am I using to access it?

Physical security of the system just isn't part of their thinking. Until it goes horribly wrong.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 11:59

I have no idea where my data is stored!

Top Marine general: 'There's a war coming'

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/366174-marine-corps-commandant-theres-a-war-coming?amp&__twitter_impression=true

GingerIvy · 23/12/2017 12:17

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@Comey
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Sadly, we are now at a point in our political life when anyone can be attacked for partisan gain. James Baker, who is stepping down as FBI General Counsel, served our country incredibly well for 25 years & deserves better. He is what we should all want our public servants to be.

8:27 PM - 22 Dec 2017

OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/12/2017 12:43

Pain I tried that fb russian link. Not available in the uk.

lionheart · 23/12/2017 13:21

At this point it would be easier to list the things Trump has said that are true. They would probably fit on a postcard. Smile

www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2017/12/22/donald-trump-has-spent-a-year-lying-shamelessly-it-hasnt-worked.html

lionheart · 23/12/2017 13:24

On that travel ban.

Trump thread # 100 “Cannot you see that I, too, have a tall and beautiful person?”
ImtheChristmasCarcass · 23/12/2017 13:26

My family has signed up for our local Impeachment March on January 20th 2018.

Look for yours and participate. Vox Populi!!!

ImtheChristmasCarcass · 23/12/2017 13:26

Oh, btw, this is Across with my festive name change!

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 23/12/2017 13:48

mobile.twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/944547039425294337
CNN have condensed a year of Trump into a two minute video.

What a buffoon.

How can this man be president of the United States? A year in and I'm still completely baffled.

ImtheChristmasCarcass · 23/12/2017 14:12

Bwah ha ha ha ha at the comments under that CNN video!

My favourite so far is this one:

jonathan baird
@bairdjm
·
1h
Replying to @CNNPolitics
I can do the same story in two words; dumpster fire

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 23/12/2017 14:14

I'll have to have a look at the comments.

Roussette · 23/12/2017 14:30

I saw that vid and OMG doesn't it focus the mind as to how awful he is?!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 18:13

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
During a meeting in June, Trump, speaking about Haitians, said they “all have AIDS,” one person who attended the meeting told NYT.

Of Nigerians, Trump said once they’d seen the U.S., they’d never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled two officials.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/politics/trump-immigration.html#click=t.co/yjHZt4RHc8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/politics/trump-immigration.html#click=t.co/yjHZt4RHc8

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/12/2017 18:19

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
In Oval Office meeting, POTUS groused that thousands of immigrants from Haiti all have AIDS and that those from Nigeria would never return to "huts" once they saw America @shearm @juliehdavis

Just before publication of story, WH pushed out cabinet members to deny the details of POTUS remarks

Two people who described the comments found them so noteworthy that they related them to others at the time, well predating WH pushback