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To not want MIL to stay over

244 replies

KatieKookaburra26 · 12/12/2017 13:30

It’s another MIL and Christmas thread so I apologise. I want to say I generally get on well with MIL, we aren’t extremely close but I do enjoy spending time with her. However she can be very overbearing and likes to tell me how to raise my children. She also has a petty rivalry with my DM over the children and it isn’t all one sided as DM does participate in it too.

I’m having DM and her partner as well as DB and his partner over for Christmas. They will stay chrismtas eve and go home Boxing Day. It has been planned since last year as we stayed with PIL last year. MIL has recently been told this by DH and she’s flipped off. She said that she had wanted to come down to ours this year with FIL as we have just moved into our house and wants to spend the first Christmas there with us. DH told her that there was no way for her to come down as we have barely enough room for my family to stay anyway. He’s also said that we can spend Christmas with her next year. All was fine until she called him last night to ask if it would be ok for her to come down this weekend and stay until the 23rd then go home to be with FIL and SILs family. She expects DH to pick her up and drive 2 hours to do so. This will mean her being there for a week and we will have no time just as our family until after Christmas. She will also be there for two school days and I already know that she will be really overbearing. DH hasn’t agreed but hasn’t said no so I don’t know how to get around it.

DH is making me feel a bit bad for saying no but having my family over but I don’t think I’m being unreasonable just need outside perspective and advice on how to get around it.

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ohfourfoxache · 14/12/2017 17:15

Fwiw I agree with poobum (never thought I’d type that!!)

Unfortunately she sounds like a bit of a narcissist. However on the plus side you can plot her next move

KatieKookaburra26 · 14/12/2017 17:41

I hope she isn’t plotting a move to ruin Christmas but you’ve all predicted everything else right so far!. What should we do if she does decide to come up with a mystery illness?.

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ToadsforJustice · 14/12/2017 17:59

If she is “ill”, her husband can look after her, just like you would look after your DH or he would look after you. That’s what partners do.....

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 14/12/2017 18:06

If there's an illness you sympathise and say how sorry you are that she won't be able to visit at all, until she's completely better and there's no chance of her illness affecting your newborn.

SootSprite · 14/12/2017 19:46

It won’t be an illness, as then you would be able to refuse to visit. It’ll be something like her heart, and the doctor wants to run some tests because he’s concerned. Something along those lines.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 14/12/2017 19:50

If there's an illness you sympathise and say how sorry you are that she won't be able to visit at all, until she's completely better and there's no chance of her illness affecting your newborn.

^^ This.

bettydraper31 · 14/12/2017 20:00

I’m a bit late on this one but I’ve read the thread, dear god what a manipulative cow!!! My MIL has tendencies like this too— (once threatened to boycott our wedding if we didn’t invite her choice of people to our wedding, this was at DHs 40th bday party knowing I couldn’t cause a scene telling her to fuck off).. this is just one thing in a loooong list so I feel your pain OP. Good on you for calling her, I bet she couldn’t believe it! She sounds like she likes to go through your DH as she prob thinks she can manipulate him. Stand your ground.

I doubt that’s the end of it, these people NEVER give in! X

SugaredSocks · 14/12/2017 21:07

If I was you I’d beat her to the punch and put it in DH’s mind that next she’ll try some mysterious illness/heart condition to keep him in line and make sure it filters back to her somehow or another. Any scheme you think she could pull make sure she knows your one step ahead of her at all times. Otherwise who knows what she’ll say or do next. As I for one am thinking the demise of her marriage would be just the opportunity she needs to come and stay with you long term and she’ll have you over a barrel on it. As she’ll milk it as much as humanly possible and then a bit more. There’s nothing quite like guilt for pushing you into awkward/unbareable situations. Good luck Flowers

redshoeblueshoe · 15/12/2017 10:22

I agree with sugaredsocks talk to your DH about what you expect next. I hope you have a lovely Christmas

WhatchaMaCalllit · 15/12/2017 10:35

I'm actually thinking (having read the updates) that she might just pack a bag and arrive at your doorstep in the run up to Christmas (thereby 'winning' in her eyes).
Be prepared to put her up for 1 night and have details of an alternative (local B&B or hotel for example) ready if she wants to stay longer. If she is interested in seeing your children, then it shouldn't matter where she stays. If she wants away from her husband, it shouldn't matter where she stays.
Keep going OP. You're doing great!

FizzyGreenWater · 15/12/2017 11:20

Absolutely definitely definitely have a conversation with your DH where you say that you bet she suddenly develops an illness. It's very likely she'll do this and if you get in there first it will spike her guns and he'll be far less inclined to believe it, or at least more willing to support you in not pandering!

lurkingnotlurking · 15/12/2017 11:22

I'm not so sure. What if we are giving the op a big dose of mumsnet madness with this one? It'll undermine her position

SandAndSea · 15/12/2017 11:24

OP, I think you've dealt with this really well. Threads like this make me feel v relieved to be nc with my mil.

I can understand her feeling emotional and crying about not seeing her son very often or whatever, but that doesn't excuse the manipulations or badmouthing you to other family members.

To posters saying it's all mils... It really isn't! I would never behave like this to my dil.

LineyRunner · 15/12/2017 12:54

We've just had our first festive 'mystery illness' in OH's family from someone wanting their own way. It's 'unexplained high blood pressure'. And apparently we all need to know, and all OH's DC now need to be tested as a matter of urgency in the week before Christmas because 'it's hereditary'.

Fuck's sake.

This isn't even the MiL. She's yet to deliver her latest bulletin of poorliness via the flying monkeys.

This stuff really does happen. And I'm glad MN wised me up to it ages ago.

SilverySurfer · 15/12/2017 13:42

How fortunate Liney that the person has developed their illness sufficiently early enough for you to cancel all your long standing plans and be available to comply with their every whim Grin

KatieKookaburra26 · 15/12/2017 20:14

Phone her today to make sure everything was ok and she just replied with one word answers. Not too bothered as long as this is all sorted now. If anything else happens will let you know but fingers crossed it’s over for now

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aaaaargghhhhelpme · 15/12/2017 20:51

Good grief how childish.

Pffft. Forget about her sulky ways. You've done all you can. Hope you have a lovely Christmas

Skittlesandbeer · 16/12/2017 23:21

Your MIL and my DM would likely hit it off- but for the fact they’d both want to meet only in their respective favourite cafe!

My DM oscillates from narcissist to martyr, so if her manipulations meet with stonewalling from us she enjoys a full-on ‘poor me’ fest with anyone who’ll listen (hoping it’ll get back to us). She basically used to win either way. I think her record for whinging about me was 12 phone calls to other family in one afternoon!

Extending the ‘toddler tantrum’ analogy, we’ve learnt to manage her expectations very early. Makes us sound ridiculous to the outside world, but keeps us sane.

Bit the bullet and invited her to Christmas lunch at ours. Last August. Thus preempting her manipulation plan. Detailed email invitation to her, very positive, kind, yet matter-of-fact. Covered all bases about the lunch, presents, staying over. Every time she tried to pick holes in it, we just innocently re-forwarded the original email. Broken record technique.

She was enraged (didn’t even try to hide it) that we’d made it impossible for her to bitch about us (and our horrible treatment of her) to everybody. If we got a flying monkey, we just sent them the email too and didn’t engage.

She’ll still figure out a way to mess with Christmas, but we’ve avoided the insanity of the normal run-up. Sadly, our days of just hoping for genuine or loving treatment and twisting ourselves in knots to make her happy are over.

As others have said you didn’t create the hole inside your MIL, you aren’t responsible for making up for her crap life and truly you haven’t got the power to help her in any meaningful way. Only she can do that, and she’s chosen not to. Just aim for fairly peaceable, infrequent interactions and prioritise your own mental health.

lurkingnotlurking · 17/12/2017 08:58

skittlesandbeer such good advice. Really rings true with my mum too

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