To say that the UK is not a Rape Culture?

[PatriarchyPersonified]

So I have had an argument with a lady I work with today that has ended with her calling me the "Patriarchy Personified", hence the name.

She claimed that the UK was a Rape Culture. I completely disagree and it feels like this is more creeping 'third wave' bullshit.

If you look at the definition of Rape Culture which is:

a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse.

Then it's clear that she is wrong. I don't disagree that there are elements of UK society that I would argue probably are characterised in this way, but you can not describe the whole UK in those terms.

She was extremely unhappy to be challenged, I work with her on a weekly basis and I've got a feeling I'm not going to have heard the last of this!

Rather than hanging himself with a long rope...

Most people I speak to find stifling PC-ness annoying. Nobody wants to sing "baa baa rainbow sheep".

That's fairly typical of low IQ, low education crowd.

Oh dear Stig, time to broaden your horizon

Im assuming its run out of actual discussion points

Who broke it????

Fess up

Who'd have thunk that agreeing with RAINN would make me rapey!

Oh wow.

This is amusing!

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grimbles

It started off sounding vaguely normal and then riding broke it and it went all weird

stig

I missed your quote from RAINN that said there was no rape culture. Could you c&p it for me?

It came away in me 'and ma'am.

So you say riding so you say

You honestly don't deserve new things if you dont look after them properly

So long as we have two sexes attracted to each other I think we're going to experience people making clumsy sexual passes, telling crude jokes, wolf whistling, etc.

No, that's not about mutual attraction, Stig, that's aggressive and unpleasant and about belittling women.

I don't want a new one the old one was crap. Can we get a clever one next time?

Damn I got distracted from the thread just before it went hilarious

To be fair to riding I don't think it was a high quality product to begin with.

Like Waitrose rip off that you get down the market. Often next to a stall selling a 'mixed bag of meat for a tenner'

A clever one???

Im not a bloody miracle worker

Fair point smile

I think the packaging was very deceptive

Like those stupid 'lego compatible mugs' which don't actually fit lego blocks. They have great packaging. But they're fucking useless and very, very annoying.

I may have bought some for Christmas

Tell me you left the meat at the market smile

please tell me that!!

The meat van at the market makes me want to be vegan.

The man has a microphone and he has patter like he's an auctioneer. Then he dumps the meat in a bag and flings it onto the counter.

It's pretty disgusting.

So long as we have two sexes attracted to each other I think we're going to experience people making clumsy sexual passes, telling crude jokes, wolf whistling, etc.

Ah well. It's just something us women have to put up with then i suppose. Men couldn't possibly examine and change their behaviour, far too challenging for their tiny one track minds.

There was a great deal more to it than most people seem to want to believe.

Like what? Do tell.

And no I don't actually think men have tiny one track minds. I think they can be better than that. It's a shame so many men don't have that same believe in their own sex. It's a shame they don't want to be better.

When Northern Ireland Police are tweeting that people need to remember that kissing under the mistletoe this Christmas without consent, the whole issue is out of control. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-delete-seasons-greetings-mistletoe-rape-tweet-warning-after-backlash-36373326.html

What issue is out of control? The police in that link don’t actually refer to kissing at all