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‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.

986 replies

TheClaws · 05/12/2017 05:30

From Shakespeake’s Henry IV, Act 3 Scene 1.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3094156-All-we-want-for-Christmas-is-an-IMPEACHMENT-Trump-cont

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lionheart · 05/12/2017 19:26

It's a poll but still.

www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trumps-approval-rating-plunges-among-young-republicans/

CaveMum · 05/12/2017 19:50

So happy to hear about the Deutsche Bank subpoenas, it’s definitely getting personal now and I wonder if the Flynn deal has led them down this route?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 19:57

This will come as no surprise to any of you

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Schiff reveals that Republicans on House Intel refused to subpoena Deutsche Bank for Trump Organization financial records. He says it's a "troubling double-standard" bc Rs sent subpoenas for Fusion GPS bank records

PlectrumElectrum · 05/12/2017 20:28

Crikey I've got like loads to catch up on.

sagamartha · 05/12/2017 20:43

Poor Sarah looked really pissed off in that briefing. Having to defend Trump's decision to endorse someone with allegations of child abuse.

Fekko · 05/12/2017 20:45

She doesn't have to do the job. She can walk away.

lionheart · 05/12/2017 21:01

Yes, she can.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 22:18

Jake Tapper‏
@jaketapper
Trump attorney @JaySekulow tells CNN: “We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the President are false. No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 22:25

Kyle Griffin‏
@kylegriffin1
Don Jr. asked Natalia Veselnitskaya at the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting whether she had evidence of illegal donations to the Clinton Foundation, Veselnitskaya told the Senate Judiciary Cmte in answers to written questions obtained exclusively by NBC News.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-jr-asked-russian-lawyer-info-clinton-foundation-n826711

Donald Trump Jr. asked a Russian lawyer at the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting whether she had evidence of illegal donations to the Clinton Foundation, the lawyer told the Senate Judiciary Committee in answers to written questions obtained exclusively by NBC News.

The lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, told the committee that she didn't have any such evidence, and that she believes Trump misunderstood the nature of the meeting after receiving emails from a music promoter promising incriminating information on Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump's Democratic opponent.

Once it became apparent that she did not have meaningful information about Clinton, Trump seemed to lose interest, Veselnitskaya said, and the meeting petered out.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 22:58

Rachel Maddow MSNBC‏
@maddow
President's lawyers have insisted today that there isn't a Deutsche Bank subpoena from the Special Counsel, but Bloomberg is standing by its reporting that there is.

Tell me more!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 23:08

Andy Slavitt‏
@ASlavitt
DEVELOPING: Collins tax reform vote looking shakier by the hour. Getting more.Follow if interested.

www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-republicans-call-for-democrats-to-make-concessions-to-get-a-vote-on-obamacare-bills/article/2642543

Earlier today:

Topher Spiro
@TopherSpiro
There's a reason why Trump and the RNC just settled on a full-throated endorsement of Roy Moore. If Doug Jones wins, and Susan Collins flips, the bill is dead.

Even earlier:

Justin Wolfers‏
@JustinWolfers
Susan Collins says she believes the Trump tax cuts will lower the debt, because Hubbard, Lindsey and Holtz-Eakin told her.

Hubbard and Holtz-Eakin have denied ever saying such a thing.

Someone's made a trillion dollar error, and no-one knows who.
nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/the-republican-war-on-economics.html

On Meet the Press Sunday, Chuck Todd asked Susan Collins how she could support a huge tax cut after having complained about excessive debt. “Economic growth produces more revenue and that will help to offset this tax cut and actually lower the debt,” she calmly replied. An incredulous Todd asked Collins how she could defend such a claim when every study has concluded the opposite. She cited Glenn Hubbard, Larry Lindsey, and Douglas Holtz-Eakin.

Jennifer Rubin got ahold of two of the three, Hubbard and Holtz-Eakin. Both economists denied having ever claimed the Republican tax cuts would produce enough growth to recoup the lost revenue.

Earlier still:

Sam Stein‏
@samstein
And like that, House conservative say they have no plans to accept the compromises that Collins and Flake secured in exchange for their tax bill votes.
www.thedailybeast.com/house-republicans-already-shooting-down-tax-bills-promises/

lionheart · 05/12/2017 23:09

Why would they deny it (even given that lying is their default)?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 23:15

Rachel Maddow MSNBC
@maddow

Now WSJ updates their DeutscheBank story!

"An earlier subheadline said a subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller’s office requested data and documents about President Trump’s accounts. The subpoena concerns people or entities close to Mr. Trump"

www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-deutsche-bank-records-subpoenaed-by-mueller-1512480154

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/12/2017 23:17

Isn't the National Enquirer the paper that bought loads of inrciminating Trump stories just so they could bury them and not be published?

National Enquirer boss accused of sexually harassing female employees

Dylan Howard, who reportedly helped Harvey Weinstein to undermine sexual assault allegations, discussed female workers’ sex lives and made them watch pornography, ex-employees say

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/05/dylan-howard-national-enquirer-sexual-harassment-claims?CMP=twt_gu

lionheart · 05/12/2017 23:52

Yep, in cahoots.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/12/2017 00:07

READ: The Op-Ed Manafort Is Accused Of Ghostwriting With A Russian Asset

talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/manafort-op-ed-kilimnik

TheClaws · 06/12/2017 03:21

Grin @ Fox.

Fox News‏Verified account
@FoxNews
14m14 minutes ago
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.@AlanDersh: "You cannot hold a president criminally responsible for exercising his constitutional authority." #Hannity fxn.ws/2ig2dXT

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lljkk · 06/12/2017 04:58

Dershowitz is supposed to be giving private legal advice to Trump. Derswh has been taking a "Trump can do whatever the Hell he likes" line for months.

OuaisMaisBon · 06/12/2017 05:04

Sorry, WTAF? "Exercising his constitutional authority"? Abusing the trust put in him by not even half a country's votes, more like. Spits out feathers. What has happened to Alan Dershowitz?

OuaisMaisBon · 06/12/2017 05:32

lijkk - I could swear your answer wasn't there when I posted my question!
But, but, but, what Dershhowitz is saying is the President is completely above the law and there is no legal come back against him at all, even if he is proven to have committed treason, or murders someone on camera in full view of the world, or carried out any crime at all? What garbage is this?
I love this headline: Trump too busy and important to face defamation lawsuit

OuaisMaisBon · 06/12/2017 05:45

Hopefully, it's Bottoms Up! after the recount Grin

OuaisMaisBon · 06/12/2017 05:52

I'm coming back with the question I've been asking with monotonous regularity on these threads - why is this not over, already? (It's rhetorical, mostly, except I'm still shocked at the moral bankruptcy of the "GOP" (G stands for Greedy, right?) and the stubbornness of those who continue to support Trump whilst actually suffering the effects of his disgraceful decisions, particularly walking back all the good Obama did with Obamacare.)
In other news, WTF is happening with Brexit, the DUP, and the single market? Will Brexit actually yet fall apart?