To think gender alters the perception of what is said on MN?

[1DAD2KIDS]

I use a username that clearly identifies my gender (and is also my biological sex). Often I feel that if people assumed I was a woman their response would be different. Or if you swapped the genders around some people's responses would be completely different?

BoreOfWhabylon let not forget this vedate has gone right of the point. I wasn't about me, just a general question about can the knowlage of sex alter perceptions on MN. The consensus on here would clearly suggest yes

Yes, AssassinatedBeauty, time for me to hide the thread I think, it's never ending.

But women do need a man, if they need help they need someone who knows who what there talking about.

For fucks sake. This is why you get bad reactions here. Not that you present yourself as male with your username.

You are right Lweji but leave it. 'E ain't wurf it.

Let's talk about worms

Lweji my error that's purely a speeding mistake. It's ment to say don't.

Do you really think after the things i have said I would thing i would think women need a man?

Pumperthepumper you know exactly what your trying to do. Your trying to get this guy he has no consideration for other groups in some kind of lazy argument.

I honestly have no idea what this means.

The thread you started was because you felt you were dealt with differently because you have an obviously male username. The consensus was, you probably are because this is a predominantly female website and women’s experience and oppression means that an obvious man charging in can put peoples backs up. The solution to that is to have a neutral username and don’t announce you’re a man. You didn’t want to because you said it would feel disingenuous. A few posters (including me) said that was nonsense because nobody would know you were being disingenuous- nobody would know you were male unless you chose to tell them.

You said sometimes a male voice is relevant. You were asked several times to give examples. You said ‘relationships’, I think that was as specific as you got. You refuse to acknowledge that if your male inpute hasn’t been explicitly asked for then it’s only you that thinks a man’s voice is important, it’s only you that feels a man’s is relevant.

You then said more male voices would enrich mumsnet. You didn’t say why or how, even though you’ve been asked several times.

Now we’re on to a new point that I don’t understand. Was it because I was agreeing with a PP about a different male poster?

To clarify should read But women dont need a man, if they need help they need someone who knows who what there talking about.

1DAD What on earth do you mean by this remark:

But women do need a man, if they need help they need someone who knows who what there talking about.

Ok, yes, I'll tell you what you want to hear and you might forever shut the fuck up. Yes, if we're discussing something and a man comes on with his point, yes, certainly, we do acknowledge his inferior knowledge and therefore dismiss his input. Happy now?

Cross post.

Apart from being a man, and a pain in the rear end, I suspect you're also drunk as you are basically incoherent. I'm not sure what I have gained from your presence here today, but it certainly ain't anything beneficial.

Pumperthepumper It was a clear diversion and I fail to see it's relevance to the conversation. Your argument why you only talking about male voice? Because that was what we were discussing. But I also think your aim was to say but you don't care about other voices, which I do and have aknowlaged.

Whoyagonna I bloody hope I'm not drunk because I'm at work in a bit. But I am dyslexic and I sometimes miss errors.

No, OP, you need to own the fact that you are being wildly incoherent since you came back onto the thread.

What was a clear diversion? The point about NewDaddie? That’s true - it was a sub-conversation with a pp. Interesting you felt it was relevant to you though.

What enrichment please?

Lineys it’s because he knows he has no point. He could so easily have said ‘oh that’s interesting, I’d never thought of it that way before. Maybe a male perspective ISNT important on this predominantly female website after all. I am wrong’ but he didn’t.

I think what's interesting is on the first few pages there was lots of different opinions many in support and against. Many saying the double standard was fine and many saying it was not. But it seems to me as a hand full of respondents got more heated,militant and even some insults thrown this range of voices diminished.

I think it was a bit relevant in that people's perceptions of NewDaddie were/are based on his rudeness, not his male name. (Was he banned? Not sure.)

This one's turning rude, too.

My perception of OP is certainly based on the style and content of his posts and not his name.

Well we all knew in the first few pages that you were a man. I wonder why the tide has turned? Any ideas?

LineysRunner oh I think there is a lot of rudeness on here. Have you read half the insults throw around?

I think a hand full of posters have scared the life out of anyone posting on here

I think what's interesting is on the first few pages there was lots of different opinions many in support and against. Many saying the double standard was fine and many saying it was not. But it seems to me as a hand full of respondents got more heated,militant and even some insults thrown this range of voices diminished.

The consensus was generally YANBU was it not? It’s the reasons for it that are being discussed - reasons you’ve been told many, many times and refuse to acknowledge as important. People generally get sick of saying the same thing over and over again to a belligerent listener. Not me though.

I really think it all boils down to: don’t whine about sex bias on an overwhelmingly female website when you’re the one going around announcing you’re male and crowing about the importance of a ‘male voice’. Or maybe ‘listen to what posters are telling you’. Or maybe ‘change your username’.

Are you scared?