In not wanting to be a feminist

[tireddotcom72]

I know I’m not alone as have had this conversation with friends but does anyone else feel PC stuff is just going too far now. The gender stuff is confusing me - I’m female always have been always will be and perfectly happy that way I don’t want to identify whatever that means with anything else and change my mind or whatever the gender fluid thing is ( that really confuses me) I’m mum to a daughter - who when younger was a pink, princess, Barbie loving frilly dress wearing child. I loved her wearing pretty dresses and wanting pretty hair. I’ve always worked in female dominated jobs - through choice no one forced me from being little I wanted to be cabin crew, my parents would have preferred me to be a solicitor, accountant or doctor like my siblings but supported my decision to go into the beauty industry because that’s what I was happy doing.
When I was younger I was whistled at in the street, had my bum pinched in nightclubs etc I wasn’t offended or outraged.

I don’t want to live in a genderless world, I don’t want my teenage daughter being in gender neutral changing rooms, I don’t even like being referred to as someone’s partner I’m quite happy being called his girlfriend.

I don’t want to offend anyone with my probably old fashioned views - I’m not even old! But I’m getting fed up of constantly hearing and reading about what I should think and believe, i mean the latest fuss about Sleeping beauty ..... what will pc brigade want to ban next?

GF

Totally regretting my decision to click on this thread. Sigh.

Suddenly various scenes from Carry On films are flitting through my head...

I don’t want to have to be careful of how I teach history or literacy at school in case somebody somewhere gets offended

I thought you were in the 'beauty industry'?

I agree OP I don’t want to live in a world where chatting up/flirting/approaching a woman is synonymous with ‘sexual harassment’

Here's a newsflash: it's really not considered sexual harassment to flirt with someone. However, having your arse pinched by some stranger in a nightclub (as the OP doesn't mind) is not chatting up or flirting is it?

As someone else said, can't argue with dumb as fuck.

Are you really an MRA?
God I really hope so because if not this is fucking depressing.

Oh for fucks sake, she's a teacher

Of what? How to apply makeup in past epochs?

History my arse.

I sincerely doubt that anyone of OP's level of intelligence and information is actually teaching. If true, one has to hope it's at primary level.

OP I fear I must warn you. My daughter wore pretty dresses, had lovely hair that I lovingly braided & put into buns. She reached 15, came out as gay & got a girlfriend. She also cut her hair short. Funny thing is, I love her, I'm proud of her, she is fucking awesome & so much stronger than I am.
Love your daughter for who she is, no need to be a dick about stuff

I don’t want to have to be careful of how I teach history

I do sympathise, OP. I hope you don't get stuck with those bloody tedious Suffragettes. All that whining and getting women the vote and stuff. So dull.

Sure, don't be a feminist.

But for crying out loud take 5 damn minutes to at least understand what a feminist actually is before you slag it off.

Personally I find it a little odd that I and a bunch of other strangers are going to have to fight for the right for your daughter to go about her day unmolested (verbally or physically), to earn the same as a man for the same job, in fact to go for any job in the world, not just "female" ones + a thousand other little things that all put her in second place. I'd have thought that you'd want to be involved in that too.

But sure, if you want to read selective definitions and carry on believing some weird feminazi fiction, then yes, we'll look out for you and your daughter. Because we care even if you don't.

How depressing. You’re a teacher, and you quite literally do not understand the definition of the word feminist. Have whatever opinion you like, as is your right - but ffs get your facts straight before making bold statements. You ought to familiarise yourself with what it is to be a feminist. It doesn’t mean what you think it means.

I'm a feminist for lots of reasons, including:

• wanting to be educated
• wanting to vote
• wanting to be paid the same as a man doing the same job
• wanting the same career opportunities as a man with the same abilities and job as me
• wanting to be protected under the law when I am more vulnerable than a man, e.g. when pregnant
• wanting to drive a car
• wanting to own property

It's easy to take some of those things for granted in this country today. But I recognise both that we still have a way to go on a lot of these issues in this country and that there are many women in the world who can only dream of having the basic rights we take for granted.

I don't view my position as threatening men in any way. I don't want more or better than men have. I just want the same.

If it doesn't interest you, that's fine. But recognise that you live the life you do now off the struggles of people who did care about those things. And also that there's women out there who don't live the life you do and who would be b*dy grateful to have someone fighting for them.

@WildBlue
The pay gap is a myth. It is down to women prioritising family over career & therefore working for a lesser period in their lifetime & working far fewer hours than men do.
I’m very high up where I work, I’ve never felt victimised or held back because I’m a woman.

Gender is a construct - much of it keeps women down. Think about high heels ffs!!

Feminism is about being equal, not being the same. However, some of construction of gender needs to be dismantled and rebuilt to acknowledge and honour the equality of all women.

I didn’t simper at anyone who pinched my bum I said I didn’t get offended. I just ignored it.

I’ve brought my daughter to believe she can do whatever she wants in life at the moment she wants to be a hairdresser that might change, at her age her life is full of YouTube and make up at the moment I don’t think she is aware of any issues in the news that don’t involve Kardashian’s- her choice. She will make her own choice on her values as she gets older.

I teach 4 year olds so no need to worry my “ignorance” will influence them

YABU and a goady fucker too imo

I love makeup and pink but I’m still a feminist. I don’t think you understand what ‘feminist’ means.

I wondered if you were my colleague who spouts this sort of nonsense, until I read that your daughter was a teen. YABU.

Do you want your daughter to have equal rights at work? To get paid the same salary as her male co workers for doing the same role?

It’s not about a being PC. It’s about women being treated as equal as having fair chances. Oh and not being sexually assaulted and treated like a piece of meat.

Sorry. But women like you make me sick

I said it before and I will keep saying it. I think there's a group of MR As pretending to be female with back stories they clearly can't keep track of .

You’ve brought your daughter to believe she can do whatever she likes in life? I think that’s feminism right there.

Op can you just answer the question, do you want to have the same rights as me ? The same bodily autonomy, the right to be paid equally in the same job?

@WildBlue
Wasn’t referring to the bum pinching in the slightest. There was a post on here going back a few months about being approached by men & the posters were calling it sexual harassment, so I don’t think I’ve been too presumptuous in nothing this is the opinion of some women.

The pay gap is a myth. It is down to women prioritising family over career & therefore working for a lesser period in their lifetime & working far fewer hours than men do.

Yeah and I am sure it is an entirely free choice for women to put their career on the back burner while men pursue theirs? It's just down to a biological desire to nurture?
Oh and it's not a myth by the way because even women without children are paid less and less likely to hold top positions in their careers.