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In not wanting to be a feminist

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tireddotcom72 · 23/11/2017 20:42

I know I’m not alone as have had this conversation with friends but does anyone else feel PC stuff is just going too far now. The gender stuff is confusing me - I’m female always have been always will be and perfectly happy that way I don’t want to identify whatever that means with anything else and change my mind or whatever the gender fluid thing is ( that really confuses me) I’m mum to a daughter - who when younger was a pink, princess, Barbie loving frilly dress wearing child. I loved her wearing pretty dresses and wanting pretty hair. I’ve always worked in female dominated jobs - through choice no one forced me from being little I wanted to be cabin crew, my parents would have preferred me to be a solicitor, accountant or doctor like my siblings but supported my decision to go into the beauty industry because that’s what I was happy doing.
When I was younger I was whistled at in the street, had my bum pinched in nightclubs etc I wasn’t offended or outraged.

I don’t want to live in a genderless world, I don’t want my teenage daughter being in gender neutral changing rooms, I don’t even like being referred to as someone’s partner I’m quite happy being called his girlfriend.

I don’t want to offend anyone with my probably old fashioned views - I’m not even old! But I’m getting fed up of constantly hearing and reading about what I should think and believe, i mean the latest fuss about Sleeping beauty ..... what will pc brigade want to ban next?

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asmuchuseasachocolatefireguard · 25/11/2017 19:05

@Pumperthepumper yes of course Smile we can agree to disagree.

Trans as in transgender or trans as in transexual (see, I am not totally ill informed. I have been reading and lurking on feminism here)?

Pumperthepumper · 25/11/2017 19:10

Either/both.

asmuchuseasachocolatefireguard · 25/11/2017 19:14

@Pumperthepumper I think the two are different things and that it's not fair to conflate them by shortening the name. I also think the best strongest allies of the feminist position on "trans" are the fundamentalist religious groups of any type, and if the two groups could work together they would achieve the aim that they both want.

I haven't formed any more of an opinion than that, I don't know enough about it to comment.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 25/11/2017 19:15

I think it is how it is and I can't change it and the responsibility to fix it lies with the perpetrator of the crime, regardless of their sex.

asmuchuse if you had to bet money on the sex of the perpetrator which sex would you bet on?

Do you think the perpetrator chooses their victim regardless of sex?

Pumperthepumper · 25/11/2017 19:16

Do you think there’s any way you could become a feminist?

asmuchuseasachocolatefireguard · 25/11/2017 19:26

@IfyouseeRitaMoreno I don't gamble

@Pumperthepumper unlikelyGrin hence me posting here

Pumperthepumper · 25/11/2017 19:29

Why not?

YoloSwaggins · 25/11/2017 19:32

and since I don't work then it doesn't really matter what men get paid or women

So because you don't work, fuck everyone else?

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 25/11/2017 20:24

I don't gamble

You don’t answer questions directly either. Forget being a feminist, you should be a politician instead Wink

Pumperthepumper · 25/11/2017 20:29

She is answering the questions though, which is more than the OP did. asmuch your set up works for you and you seem happy with it, so good luck to you. Feminists have got you to this point but you acknowledge that yourself.

Outside of your experience though are millions of women who still need feminism. I really can’t face typing all the issues out again but they’ve been discussed a lot on this thread. It’s disengenious to pretend they don’t exist are women have an equal standing in society. We don’t.

asmuchuseasachocolatefireguard · 25/11/2017 20:29

@IfyouseeRitaMoreno I'm sorry I've answered lots of questions directly here this evening - I would not bet on anything because I don't gamble.

Some perpetrators pick their victims depending on their sex, which is to do with the type of offence they are committing and the opportunity / their own personal preferences. But you seem to think I'm saying that men and women are the same and I never said that not at all.

I'm just content as things are and I don't see the need to keep fighting for change when the change has happened.

asmuchuseasachocolatefireguard · 25/11/2017 20:31

@Pumperthepumper thank you I have felt a bit picked on and I only joined the thread because I thought there was someone else who felt like me and that the thread would be full of others with my view. Seems I was wrong Grin but that's OK we can agree to disagree Smile

Millions of women and millions of men need all kinds of things changing in their lives and I can't fix it all so I do as much as I can, but I don't specifically pick female / feminist charities to support.

Pumperthepumper · 25/11/2017 20:34

Millions of women and millions of men need all kinds of things changing in their lives and I can't fix it all so I do as much as I can, but I don't specifically pick female / feminist charities to support.

I do. If you ever need them, or your daughters need them, then I will willingly fight for your right to use them.

HolgerDanske · 25/11/2017 20:39

Won’t engage much more in this discussion (as I do highly suspect GF’ry), but will just say to whomever asked, no, it’s not harsh, IMO. There is a vast difference between ‘this is who I personally am, this is what I prefer and what works for me’, which is absolutely fine, and ‘I don’t need or want X so why should I consider the rights or protections of anyone else who might need or want it?’ which is what the given person has said.

In any case, these discussions do get tedious. People either want to know or don’t, so I’m going to leave it here and chill and enjoy my wine and chocolate.

BertrandRussell · 26/11/2017 14:45

I don't think Asmuch is a GF or a troll. I just think she is a particular type of Christian. Disclaimer: NACALT.

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