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LBC.... Trans women and non trans women.

289 replies

therealposieparker · 21/11/2017 18:39

AIBU to expect us to be called women?

At first we're cis, then non men and now non-trans?

What the hell is happening?

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therealposieparker · 22/11/2017 17:29

I've watched, and know some teens personally, youtube videos of trans men coaching trans questioning teens on how to get blockers/hormones.... it includes saying you're suicidal.

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RoseWhiteTips · 22/11/2017 17:36

Oh for goodness sake, it seems the tail is trying to wag the dog - or more likely trying to get lots of lovely moi moi moi attention.

sigh

ferntwist · 22/11/2017 17:43

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EvieBlack · 23/11/2017 09:18

Oh yeah of course. How can anyone forget all the suicidal trans flowers 🙄

A bit like all the trans children who get caught with scissors JUST before they cut their penises off. Very common that.

GladAllOver · 23/11/2017 10:43

When a child has normal concerns about its place in the world, the very last thing it needs is for someone to tell it that it has the wrong sex.
FFS just let him/her grow up and find its own way!

PumpkinSquash · 23/11/2017 11:16

Yay, another thread. Hmm
Although I'm with you, YANBU.
Just put my response on the other thread, so will just copy and paste here.
Been following this thread and shaking my head. All an absolute load of horseshit.
Basically then, cis means a biological woman. So, that's a woman then.
Call yourself what you like, identify as whatever the hell you like, but you do not get to call me cis woman. I'm a woman. Female, a woman, and it's a bit bloody insulting to say, "actually, no you're not, you're cis."
Fuck that.

PumpkinSquash · 23/11/2017 11:21

Being a woman makes you a woman, some women can have a penis

This thread is batshit. No, no they can't. FFS. Back to biology lessons for you.

streetlife70s · 23/11/2017 11:30

The only time I could ever remotely buy the ‘women have penis’s’ line is when referring to the tiny, minuscule group of people who have a medical disorder whereby they are born with a chromosomal abnormality and present with both male and female sex organs and reproductive organs. This is what trans activists seem to refer to as an example when pushing their agenda.

But it’s bullshit as it’s such a tiny minority and it’s a medical disorder.

You can’t simply ‘feel’ your way to being a different biological sex.

Women DO NOT HAVE PENIS’S and l cannot understand why it’s hate speech to deny basic biological facts.

Incitatus · 23/11/2017 12:27

I feel sorry for the intersex people whos condition has been dragged into all this.

BeyondAssignation · 23/11/2017 13:17

Being a woman makes you a woman

Definition that isn't at all circular... 🙄

slug · 23/11/2017 15:15

There is a very good book by one of the scientists who first pushed the investigation of intersex conditions, Galileos Middle Finger In ti she talks about the way her research and advocacy for people with intersex conditions was appropriated by the transgender movement and the attacks she suffered as a result.

It's an easy if somewhat horrifying read

Threesilverfeathers · 23/11/2017 15:26

This fashion isnt going to be as easily removed as a bad hair cut, tats or gothy make up. There are going to be some sad, infertile, mutilated, regreful people before this fad goes away.

No woman has a penis.

Penises dont belong in female only spaces.

Woman is not a suit to be put on. Xy, even a mutilated xy is male.

There is no such thing as a lady brain ib a female body. The few psuedo scientific studies to claim this are discounted by the study involving identical twins. Im no scientist, but really, its a delusion, a mental illness. Not a physical problem.

Ive truly had enough of this utter bullshit.

BelaLugosisShed · 23/11/2017 16:31

Only humans born female are women. (Exceedingly rare DSDs aside).
As for 1% of the population being Trans, no way on this earth, given that 4000 (75% men) adults have legally transitioned since 2004. The adult population is what, 40 million+ ? Even if you double / triple / quadruple the figures its a tiny, tiny minority.

ferntwist · 23/11/2017 16:33

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