In thinking Charles Bronson should have been released years ago ??

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Yes he's a violent idiot but bloody hell, 40years just seems a bit harsh for someone who.is probably more mad than bad.......when you consider a man who raped and murdered two children is being released and will serve less time than a man who's never really been given a chance it all sounds a bit ridiculous.

Well I think once you find out he kills people for shits and giggles we should defo leave him there

YANBU I agree OP. Don't think it'll ever happen though.

whilst a man who raped and murdered two children will soon be back on the streets confused

Well if you are referring to Huntley. What he wants and what will actually happen are very very different.

Cross posts

Charles Bronson did have a chance to be rehabilitated, he didn't want to be, he made the choice not the system and no, he is not 'as mad as a box of frogs' he is perfectly sane and has made his own decisions with a perfectly sound mind.

I don't know who you are referring to as the murder and rapist who is likely to be back on the streets very soon so cannot comment on that specific case, perhaps you could enlighten us?

WitchesHatRim the OP has already said she's referring to Colin Pitchfork, not Ian Huntley.

Actually, all he has to do to get released, is to do his time, and not assault someone, or take them hostage.He can't be kept in prison soley because of a perception that he's dangerously mentally ill :that might be a reason for placing him in a high security hospital.

Years of solitary confinement may well make it v difficult for him to be around other people : but if he commits ABH / GBH ( multiple) against other prisoners and guards, he's going to get charged. Many of these crimes have only added a year or two to his sentence.But there have been so many of them.

Taking people hostage, and threatening them- a civilian librarian, a deputy governor, a governor, a doctor, a lawyer, multiple inmates, and a education worker who Bronson credibly threatened to kill during the 44 hours he held him hostage, to name but some.

He presumably received psychiatric help during the 7 years he was sectioned in Broadmoor, Rampton ,etc.

You have got to be kidding - talk to some of the prison officers who have had to deal with him (I have). He is a violet psychopath and a danger to life.

"perhaps you could enlighten us?"

She has.

What do you suggest should happen to him if he's released? If he's "mad as a box of frogs" as you say, presumably he'd still have to be held under section in very secure conditions? How would that help him?

Pitchfork however still also has a way to go before he is fully released.

Well I think once you find out he kills people for shits and giggles we should defo leave him there

He's never killed anyone.

I think yanbu op. No doubt he's got some (lots?) of mental health problems but when you read all the things that have increased his sentence, I feel he's been treated harshly in lots of cases.

Extra time added to his sentence for things like breaking roof tiles during a protest, and for causing 'severe bruising' to the Governor. When you read about his long list of assaults, one was against a child murderer and another against an inmate that kept making sexual advances to him. Some attacks have been as a direct result of him going off the rails after having his mail illegally held from him, which the prison admitted.

Not necessarily a good guy but not bad enough to warrant life IMO.

Extra time added to his sentence for things like breaking roof tiles during a protest, and for causing 'severe bruising' to the Governor.

So you think causing severe by using to a Governor is ok then

Read this Wikipedia article on the guy before you decide to set him free.

You’re right he’s never killed anyone - he just attacks people for shits and giggles

List of convictions

He attacks intending to kill though

And if he was released what then? he would still be housed, clothed, fed and supported at public expense, and frankly, since I am going to be paying for him until the day he dies I would rather he was somewhere secure where the only price we pay for him is financial rather than risk society paying the price for his violent uncontrollable temper and unpredictable behaviour.

God no! YABU!

He's a violent meglomaniac, narcissistic, psychopath who chooses crime as it suits him and manipulates everyone he comes into contact with.
He has done stretches in every high security hospital in the UK and no one can contain him for an extended period.
Let's not romanticise over Tom Hardy on Netflix, eh?

Your argument seems to be:

"A man who raped and murdered two children is being let out of prison after (in my opinion) not enough time. To make this fair, we ought to also let out another violent offender who has served more time".

If you think that Huntley has not been in prison long enough, that's one thing. But it's a bizarre idea of justice that this balance could somehow be redressed by letting out another inmate, one COMPLETELY unconnected to the case and whose situation is very, very different.

(And that's leaving aside that Bronson has persistently attacked guards/other prisoners.)

Also, you can't use the crimes of one as a yardstick to measure the crimes of another!
It's like saying at least rapists don't murder, so they should be set free. That's ludicrous.

I wasnt aware he'd killed anyone LeNil........nor am I a massive, expert on Charles Bronson.

If you can't even be bothered to Google the guy, why did you start a thread saying he should have been released?!

*"He's a violent meglomaniac, narcissistic, psychopath who chooses crime as it suits him and manipulates everyone he comes into contact with."

Oh dear. Sorry for the levity, but that reminded me of the last line in Some Like It Hot "Well, nobody's perfect!"

Insomniac apologies that my cross posting with the OP has so clearly irritated you.

SendintheArdwolves She wasn't referring to Huntley but to Colin Pitchfork.