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To ask for your comebacks to being asked if I'm a full time mum?

470 replies

RemainOptimistic · 07/11/2017 21:21

Got asked this today in the context of small talk. I couldn't think on the spot so just muttered about going back to work.

What can I say in future? How about "oh why do you ask, are you a part time mum too?" or is that too rude?

OP posts:
Whereisthegin1978 · 07/11/2017 21:40

I'm an SAHP but used to work part time. When I stopped working people started asking me what it was like being a full time mum/ how was I coping with being full time! I get what they meant - what's it like being at home with the kids all day everyday? I found the full time bit insulting and can totally see why mums who work also get annoyed with this question. No come backs sorry - although the ones given are good. We're all full time mum's whatever you do outside the home.

Lethaldrizzle · 07/11/2017 21:40

It bothers people, because the working mums think it implies they are only part time mums. It's a ridiculously pedantic argument.

allinclusive · 07/11/2017 21:41

No comeback required, but how would you describe yourself? Your reaction suggests that you don't think it's ok to be a full time mum.

Ktown · 07/11/2017 21:41

Don’t feel bad.
I outsource my childcare 5 days per week and have 10 Christmas presents to buy if you include everyone involved.
I am definitely a part time mum 😀

troodiedoo · 07/11/2017 21:43

I'd just say yes. Parent is a noun and a verb. Deal with it.

Bluntness100 · 07/11/2017 21:43

I’m struggling to understand the issue too.

Op is it the phrasing?
Is it the fact you’re going back to work?
Is it you’re not going back to work.?

I think you need to clarify why you’ve taken issue here and want a comeback and an ehrm head tilt, of all things?

MadMags · 07/11/2017 21:44

"Are you a full time mum?"

"What do you mean?"

"Do you have a job?"

"So you mean am I a stay at home parent? Yes/no."

Simple!

MadMags · 07/11/2017 21:44

Being a mother is a relationship, not a job.

Parker231 · 07/11/2017 21:45

Have been a full time mum from the day DT’s were born. Happen to also have full time paid employment. Will be a full time mum til the day I die!

Urubu · 07/11/2017 21:46

Meh... You obviously know what they mean, why be annoyed? I mean, in current language full tim mum means stay at home mum for most people.
I am a working mum btw.

gillybeanz · 07/11/2017 21:46

People don't say it to be offensive though.
They mean are you going back to work or being a full time mum during normal working hours.
They are not suggesting you are inferior for working, as don't most mum's work these days?

PoorYorick · 07/11/2017 21:48

It used to be a perfectly polite and reasonable way of saying SAHM. Etiquette has changed but some people haven't had the memo. They don't mean anything by it.

Platypusfattypus · 07/11/2017 21:49

It is rude. It’s implying that if you work you are not being a parent. Which is a load of shit. No-one would ask a dad if they are full time. No issue with the labels sahm or working mum.

FridgeCut · 07/11/2017 21:49

It's just clumsy. I am a full-time mum that works 28 hours a week. By that I mean I have two children, (2 and 4) and no childcare. I work at nap time and evenings. I am not a SAHM, I am not a WOHM, I am a WAHM, but that doesn't fit well into small talk chats. I think full-time is used to mean your children are with you full-time and not in childcare? Not that you aren't a parent all the time but that you delegate some of the care to others.

Lethaldrizzle · 07/11/2017 21:50

Platypus as a working mum I do not find it rude in the least

PoorYorick · 07/11/2017 21:54

I'm a working mother but tbh I actually always preferred this term to SAHM. The term 'stay at home mother' implies that you never leave the house or do anything outside of it.

I use the term SAHM because I know it's what's now considered acceptable, but who know what it'll be in ten years time.

I don't think there's any term for a mother who isn't in paid employment that isn't going to be offensive to someone so I just roll with it.

gillybeanz · 07/11/2017 21:54

It doesn't imply anything about a woman working and not being a ft sahm.
That's really what people are asking.
I think it's a shame that women take the hump at this question, because they either aren't happy with their choice and reading in implications that don't exist or worse think that other women judge their choices all the time.
Anything that keeps us fighting is brilliant for the patriarchy, shame really.

NataliaOsipova · 07/11/2017 21:54

You obviously know what they mean, why be annoyed?

I agree with this. If I got snippy about being called a stay at home mum on the grounds of inaccuracy (it’s a rare day when I’ve stayed at home all day and it has usually involved illness), then you’d call me a pedant. People are just making conversation.

Arealhumanbeing · 07/11/2017 21:58

Find a way to be comfortable with what you’re doing and then the phrasing of questions like that won’t bother you.

HeteronormativeHaybales · 07/11/2017 22:03

'Being a mother is a relationship, not a job.'

This. 'Full-time mum' is supposed to imply that it is a job, or that you are somehow not a 'mum' when at work. It taps into the same attitudes as comments (there was a flurry of them on a thread the other week) implying that the children of FT WOHM are 'raised' by nurseries or nannies.

I have three children and I work part-time. I don't think of myself as 'a part.time mum and a part-time lion tamer' (job details have been changed, oddly enough).

DontMakeMeShushYou · 07/11/2017 22:06

Just reply with a lovely ambiguous "Aren't we all?"

Raaaaaah · 07/11/2017 22:08

Gah, they were trying to make polite conversation and you have taken umbridge. Honestly find something else to be indignant about and take it in the spirit it was intended. Try not to look for the negative connotation, most people aren’t arses.

JustHereForThePooStories · 07/11/2017 22:11

People aren’t that interested in you and are just making small talk.

They can’t win. You’d be upset if asked if you work, or asked if you’re a housewife.

YellowMakesMeSmile · 07/11/2017 22:12

They could ask if you are on maternity or just unemployed but it sounds politer to phrase it as full time mum I suspect.

It's a crap term as it's neither a job nor a role.

Funnyfarmer · 07/11/2017 22:13

Am I classed as a full time shop assistant even though I work 20 hours a week?
I'm at home now but I'm still a shop assistant. I'm still a shop assistant when I'm in the pub, in the supermarket, reading bedtime stories, making tea.