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To ask for your comebacks to being asked if I'm a full time mum?

470 replies

RemainOptimistic · 07/11/2017 21:21

Got asked this today in the context of small talk. I couldn't think on the spot so just muttered about going back to work.

What can I say in future? How about "oh why do you ask, are you a part time mum too?" or is that too rude?

OP posts:
RaymondinaReddington · 12/11/2017 15:18

Blimey. Some poor innocent soul is making small talk with you. It's pretty clear what they mean and doesn't sound like they were aiming to upset you.

This kind of thread makes me never want to attempt any small talk ever. In case I upset someone with a chip on their should who makes a profession out of being offended.

The fact that you make anything out of this comment at all says more about you than them. You clearly have issues validating your own life choices. Only those who have to validate their choices to all and sundry would take offense at innocent comments.

Wants · 12/11/2017 21:39

I am a full time mum and also work part time! You don’t stop being a mum once you get to work😀

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea · 13/11/2017 00:48

You're not though. You know what it means.

MadMags · 13/11/2017 18:12

Yes, she is.

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea · 13/11/2017 18:14

No she's not.

Unless you're unable to understand context to this basic level, in which case don't take it out on others.

FlowerPot1234 · 13/11/2017 18:14

Wants
I am a full time mum and also work part time! You don’t stop being a mum once you get to work

Are you saying being a full time mum isn't work?

MadMags · 13/11/2017 18:39

Oh hot was that your attempt at being witty?! Grin

MadMags · 13/11/2017 18:40

It’s not work, Flower. It’s a relationship. If you’re being pedantic.

FlowerPot1234 · 13/11/2017 18:50

I asked Wants the question.

Jenpug · 13/11/2017 18:52

The childcare role is work, or would you say a nanny or childminder doesn't work?
A mother doesn't stop being a mother because she has a job to go to but that same mother isn't doing the childcare role that a SAHM is.
It's strikes me that mothers who go to work are very quick to shout down what is probably an innocent comment but which they take offense to as they believe it suggests they're only a part time mum but are also very quick to put down the effort and work involved in being solely responsible for the care of preschool children pretty much 24/7.

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea · 13/11/2017 19:37

No. But I can see you're getting even more confused Hmm

farfallarocks · 14/11/2017 10:27

So
When you kids go to school do you become a part time Mum again?

Jenpug · 14/11/2017 11:04

Nobody asks is a woman is a full time mum to suggest the opposite is a part time mum and no-one asks if a woman is a working mum to suggest the opposite doesn't do any work.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/11/2017 13:25

I'd say, "Why do you ask? Don't you think every parent is a full time parent?"

Theresamayscough · 14/11/2017 13:33

God why would you care what a random thinks of your life style?

It’s great getting older as you really don’t care about crap like this.

It’s small talk. Move on.

Midge75 · 14/11/2017 14:55

I hate the minefield of different phrases you can/should/shouldn't use to describe the various situations parents find themselves in/have chosen. I think as long as the question was asked in an innocent, interested manner, without any patronising undertones, just answer the question without getting offended. I've had people ask me if I work, and when I've answered "No, I'm just a mum", they jump in with "Oh no, you're not JUST a mum - never JUST a mum, it's such an important role - I'm sure they keep you busy, haha!" I don't need any justification! I really meant, and was happy saying I'm "just" a mum, as in "only" a mum, no other employment. That did annoy me, because they assumed I was somehow apologising or feeling inferior for being a SAHM (or whatever you want to call it). But as for using the "wrong" description for working/having no paid employment, let it go.

Vashna · 14/11/2017 14:57

Who actually cares about this?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/11/2017 15:24

Erm - mothers who feel that they are being judged for working outside the home, @Vashna - though I think you could have worked that out for yourself, if you had tried. Just because something doesn't bother you, doesn't mean that it can't bother other people.

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea · 14/11/2017 15:29

mothers who feel that they are being judged for working outside the home

When they aren't being. It's just small talk. No-one cares that much about you, so eat that chip and chill.

Vashna · 14/11/2017 15:33

Well I'm a full-time mum in the sense that I don't do anything else. But I'm a part-time mum if you like because the kids are now all at school. So I'm a full-time mum who does the "mum-thing" part-time.

SisyphusHadItEasy · 14/11/2017 15:35

I am just responding to the OP, so forgive me if this has taken a left turn, but "if you are doing the 'Mum' thing right, it is definitely full time.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/11/2017 15:36

How do you know that they aren't being judged, @hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea? There are plenty of people who DO judge a mother who works outside the home - I've seen comments online about women 'abandoning' their children in nursery, and how it is terrible parenting to have a child and then not raise them yourself - so purely on the balance of probabilities, some of the times this question is asked, it is being asked in a judgemental fashion.

Unless you are there at every occasion of this question being asked, you cannot make such a sweeping generalisation.

Oh, and fwiw, I never personally felt judged when I did work outside the home - that doesn't stop me being capable of empathy, or of realising that some women do feel judged in this situation.

Vashna · 14/11/2017 15:43

Surely everybody is a mum if they have children. But being with kids all day is a different lifestyle set-up to being with them mornings and evenings. People who ask if you are a full-time mum are probably just trying to work out if you're likely to be around in the day, available for play dates, etc. Maybe they want company?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/11/2017 16:12

I'm sure you're right, in some cases, @Vashna - but I am sure there are times when the question is asked in a judgemental way.

hotbutteredcrumpetsandtea · 14/11/2017 16:29

Unless you are there at every occasion of this question being asked, you cannot make such a sweeping generalisation

Of course you can, unless you are determined to be offended. If you are starting from a point of everyone is judging you unless you can prove otherwise then you need to seek help for your paranoia and narcissism.

999 out of 1000 times if someone asks you this, they are simply asking if you've a paid job or not. Don't be a dick about it.