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AIBU?

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To refuse lift to smoker because she smells?

332 replies

florapearl · 23/10/2017 13:38

Obviously not as blunt as that but she lights up just before getting in the car and it stinks. So AIBU to tell her to get the bus if she can't wait?

OP posts:
RubMyRhubarb · 23/10/2017 20:44

You're welcome to call it bullshit

Thanks, because I am.

I'm not blinkered, if you read my PP's you'll see I clearly acknowledge that smoking honks. But that's SMOKING. What's being claimed here by a few people is that the mere presence of someone who was previously smoking can be detected days (someone earlier went into weeks) later. That's crap.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 23/10/2017 20:50

There are many articles, some academic about the products of smoking remaining long after the smoking has taken place.

RubMyRhubarb · 23/10/2017 20:51

"From Wikipedia - nicotine and other components of the smoke tend to coat a space's surfaces including *skin, hair and clothing and continue to emit toxins."

Not disputed, and hasn't been. Where is the implication that this is or can be transferred to another surface to such an extent that you can still smell it two days later?

If someones clothes are utterly saturated with the smell/chemicals/nicotine, I can almost buy your story, is that the case? Had they been chuffing away for weeks in the same clothes and got soaked on the way over before sitting on your sofa?

WonderLime · 23/10/2017 20:54

If someones clothes are utterly saturated with the smell/chemicals/nicotine, I can almost buy your story, is that the case? Had they been chuffing away for weeks in the same clothes and got soaked on the way over before sitting on your sofa?

As I mentioned, they smoke in their house and car. I would imagine all their clothes stink of smoke even when they are not wearing them. My experience is that last time they were in my house, my sofa smelt of smoke for 2 days.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 23/10/2017 20:56

Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant, it's what other people experience - I didn't imagine my airing cupboard still smelling of stale smoke.

phlebasconsidered · 23/10/2017 20:57

I'm an ex smoker. 12 years now.

My new ( since September) other year group teacher smokes. Not at school, not all day, but you can clearly smell it in the classroom from her clothes, bags and so on. Just as I can clearly smell the kids that come from homes where a parent smokes. Some bookbags and books reek. Perhaps those parents are smoking indoors, but I doubt it. I think it just smells more than you notice when you're smoking.

I grew up in the seventies where the whole stink was fags, sweat smoked rayon and patchouli. I didn't notice it then but I do now because I've stopped smoking!

I'd like to think.it will die out but the visual evidence of girls puffing away on their way to the local secondary suggests not.

Mivery · 23/10/2017 20:58

Wow, some of these responses XD. Not a smoker, never been a smoker and YABU. Ask her not to smoke before you pick her up.

C0untDucku1a · 23/10/2017 21:02

A lot of smart arses on here tonight. It doesnt chane the fact that smokers stink though.

bottlesandcans · 23/10/2017 21:24

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lettuceWrap · 23/10/2017 21:26

No, we are not imagining the smell, and maybe is smells vile to us, because it is potentially harmful.

Justification here in the article below for those of us who would be put off buying a car/house from smokers. Actually we did buy a house off a family of very heavy smokers, many years ago, there were actual tar/nicotine stains on the walls/ceilings (also, as an added bonus, their elderly dog was incontinent). We stripped the entire house of wallpaper, carpets and underlay which got rid of most of the smell, new carpets and redecorating covered the rest... I would think long and hard about ever buying anything in that state again.

www.newsweek.com/smoking-cigarettes-smell-clothes-furniture-can-damage-brain-liver-667183

prettybird · 23/10/2017 21:33

The fact that smoking involved, you know, smoking , as in incinerating a stick of a noxious solid substance, means that it leaves substances behind - in the form of ash and smaller particles. It is these substances that then transfer.

That is why the smell can linger on things in the vicinity of a smoker for more than just the time for air to circulate once a a smoker leaves.
It's not as if it is volatiles like the essential oils in perfumes which are, you know, volatile and will therefore disperse and not transfer in the same way.

I'd imagine that if someone vapes, you would only get a transient smell around them (and I understand you can get "fancy" flavoured vapes) as it is purely vapour with no particulates bring formed through incineration. I wouldn't know though because I have no friends who vape.

victoire1208 · 23/10/2017 21:39

Christ. Have a fag and chill out.

theabysswithin · 23/10/2017 21:46

It's all been said more eloquently and with more detail upthread.

But as an ex-smoker who now loathes the smell of it I am astonished at how petty and mean some of you are. YABVU.

Fair enough if someone was actually smoking in the car. But if you have time to get irritated about the risk of a faint trace whiff of smoke in your car for a few hours afterwards you just don't have enough to worry about.

kali110 · 23/10/2017 21:52

I once met a lady from Scotland who couldn't sell her house because 8 houses down in her street the owner before the previous owners friend came over and had a cigar on new years eve back in the 50s.
Totally true, that is. Bankrupt she went. They knocked the place down in the end, the stench from that one cigar just couldn't be removed no matter how hard they tried

LolGrin

kali110 · 23/10/2017 21:53

Wow bottles too, the hostility from most of the non smokers Hmm
You not able to discuss without insulting people?

PortiaFinis · 23/10/2017 21:57

Smile at Victoire and Kali.

Are people really this horribly judgemental and rude? If you don’t want to give someone a lift then don’t but be kind in the reason you give.

I hope those being so horrifically rude and OTT about the very existence of smokers are actually people just having a laugh and not being serious. I can’t really imagine thinking like that about anyone.

hamburgler · 23/10/2017 22:05

The only people being rude and hostile on this thread are the smokers, who appear utterly outraged (and to be expressing their outrage in the nastiest possible way) that anyone might deign to be not 100% pro smoking.

Go back to page 1, it's all nice comments until Victoire starts randomly trolling and throwing abuse at people for literally no reason.

kali110 · 23/10/2017 22:07

The only people being rude and hostile on this thread are the smokers, who appear utterly outraged (and to be expressing their outrage in the nastiest possible way) that anyone might deign to be not 100% pro smoking.
Oh yes because calling people oinks and tramps is wonderful Hmm
Oh, and i'm a non smoker Grin

victoire1208 · 23/10/2017 22:11

In fairness I don't think OP's tone was entirely serious.
I just keep imagining an army of hyacinth buckets walking the streets of Britain holding their nose and huffing at the sight of a tab.

theabysswithin · 23/10/2017 22:17

hamburgler actually if you look back, most of the people who are outraged at this are non-smokers who just think the rest of you are being petty and neurotic.

victoire1208 · 23/10/2017 22:18

I don't smoke.
nastiest way possible by calling people offended by 3rd hand smoke pearl clutchersGringet a grip.

Rudedog · 23/10/2017 22:20

We have belongings from my FIL (died 15 years ago) they still stink.
When MIL died 8 years after him (non smoker) her home and everything in it still stank of cigarettes

Disagreed with MIL on many occasions about smoking, her telling me it didn't give off any smell. She was so desensitised to it.

After we visited them or them us we would have to do a lot of washing as smell was on everything

Smokers don't think it smells because they can't smell it - but it reallly really does

PandorasXbox · 23/10/2017 22:30

Do we know who the smoking passenger is yet? 😷😴

I don’t smoke although I did. Like many people that stop I find the smell overwhelming and disgusting.

However I would not refuse a friend/colleague a lift in my car because they’d just put out a cigarette.

Autumnleaves105 · 23/10/2017 22:45

I'm a smoker but I understand where you're coming from op. I would just ask her to smoke a little while before you kick her up. If someone asked me to do that, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

Tuileries · 23/10/2017 23:31

I remember a former boss telling me I stank when I came into work having smoked a cigarette on the way in. At the time I was Confused but he was right. I smelt awful.

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