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Does our PM understand this at all? Trans

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DarthMaiden · 19/10/2017 02:03

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/19/trans-not-illness-theresa-may-says-vows-make-reforms/amp/

Equality for everyone!!! Hurrah!!

Apart from the fact that equality means the erosion of rights from 50% of the population.

But let’s jump on the bandwagon of being cool and accepting....and not doing any research into the subject, for example how drugs that suppress puberty can result in life limiting side effects.

Let’s not talk about men convicted of rape who end up in women’s prisons or the medals won by men competing in women’s sport.

Agghh

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PricklyBall · 21/10/2017 17:03

I too have a predatory lesbian encounter... not. Many years ago before my knees went to shit with age, on one of my many nights out in our (small) town's gay bar, with my Sunday league football team (majority lesbian), I got hit on. My team rallied round - captain taking me on one side to explain to me with great concern that there were lesbians out there who liked to "turn" straight women for a laugh, our 18 year old goalie having an attack of chivalry and offering to pretend to be my girlfriend to put the woman off.

As I explained to them, I was used to het night clubs - and this woman's behaviour did not even make the needle flicker on my dangerous-wanker-ometer.

GetYourHandsOffMyUnicorn · 21/10/2017 17:10

Speaking of predatory lesbians, how exactly do these people who claim to have been sexually assaulted by women in toilets know their attacker was a lesbian? I'm willing to bet they don't. They're just assuming that she's a lesbian based on the fact she assaulted a woman.

PricklyBall · 21/10/2017 17:27

I should say I don't disbelieve PP on her assault - it does happen (I have a friend who suffered DV in a lesbian relationship). But it's much, much rarer than male on female sexual or domestic violence.

GetYourHandsOffMyUnicorn · 21/10/2017 17:36

Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound like I didn't believe them but I can see that saying they were simply claiming it happened makes it sound like that Blush

However I'm still not sure how you could determine someone's sexual orientation just based on the fact they assaulted you. Most men who rape other men are heterosexual.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 21/10/2017 17:56

The random lesbian that hit on me... “sorry I’m straight” I said. “Never apologize for your sexuality, I wouldn’t apologize for mine”.

Thanks random lesbian for teaching me a lesson about acceptance, tolerance and not apologizing for who I am. An experience I have never had while rejecting a man!

Lallypopstick · 21/10/2017 18:52

That’s not what a meme is Hmm

PricklyBall · 21/10/2017 19:18

Not as originally intended by Dawkins, no, (see meaning 1 in the OED), but it has since taken on a secondary meaning (2 in the OED) meaning image or video copied or spread rapidly by internet users.

Isn't the English language fascinating in the way the meanings of words constantly evolve? (Always good to check before you launch into pedantically correcting another poster, I find.)

VivaLeBeaver · 21/10/2017 20:04

The hospital I work in has had complaints against the maternity dept due to the fact some of the leaflets mention women. Apparently men can be pregnant as well and we're a bunch of TERFS for saying that's not true.

TitaniasCloset · 21/10/2017 22:07

I know there are some effed up lesbians out there. That's just life. But everytime I have been hit on by a lesbian including one who was very persistent and a bit obsessive it was not a problem to deal with, it was usually a very flattering experience. I was never frightened. Just my experience of course.

TitaniasCloset · 21/10/2017 22:12

Though I have to say the lesbians who hit on me were gorgeous intelligent women, one in a club was truly beautiful with a dark haired pixie cut, green eyed stunning thing going on. I was shocked she was even interested.

But with men I always attract the ugly weirdos. That's partly why I'm single! I think life might be better if I did turn lesbian really Grin

Sorry I don't mean to turn this too lighthearted when I'm posting because someone was assaulted in the first place. Flowers for that pp.

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Albadross · 21/10/2017 22:33

This is a genuine status someone put on FB. How dare we have a hashtag that excludes men Hmm

Does our PM understand this at all? Trans
busyboysmum · 21/10/2017 22:37

www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article134353039.html

Interesting article here about what is happening in women's prisons.

“The Plaintiffs have been forced to share intimate facilities with men, who allege they are women,” the Feb. 15 complaint states. “These men openly express their sexual desire for the women inmates, at times, in the showers, and bathrooms, while women are naked.

TitaniasCloset · 21/10/2017 22:43

Oh gosh can you imagine being locked up with nowhere to run to and having to get naked in front of some big weird fucking bloke who is clearly loving it. That's awful. What if all you did was shop lift or have an addiction? Terrifying.

TitaniasCloset · 21/10/2017 22:44

People think it will never happen to them or their girl children because they aren't the sort to go to prison. If this gender identity bill goes through we will all be at risk.

busyboysmum · 21/10/2017 22:45

“One male transgender was in the SHU (Special Housing Unit) and did not want a certain female inmate in his cell, so he told officers if the woman was put in his cell, he would rape her,” the lawsuit said. “This man was 6’5” and weighed over 200 pounds. No female inmate would be able to protect herself against such a large man.”

Bucketsandspoons · 21/10/2017 22:46

Fern bloody hell the comments below that article.....

I'm still staggered that a transwoman is going to a woman's infertility group, using that resource and insisting that their experience of infertility is as valid as a biological woman's. And sees absolutely nothing wrong with the utter narcissim that involves. I wonder how much the women in that group feel about it.

I read those comments and despair, I really do.

Rumandraisin1 · 21/10/2017 22:57

It sickens me that in that article the National Center for Lesbian Rights is supporting these abusive men over vulnerable women. So many LGB organisations have been completely taken over by transactivists and not only no longer represent the groups they purport to be for but act to their detriment (e.g. supporting the transing of gay children, the 'cotton ceiling' etc)

I note that we are supposed to believe the word of anyone who self-identifies as a woman that they are being 'genuine' (even when they are a violent sex offender) - but when one of them threatens to rape a female inmate, the women who actually believe what they say and are scared are just 'being prejudiced and biased'. So are we supposed to believe the word of these individuals or not?

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TitaniasCloset · 21/10/2017 23:20

Maybe Satan has finally taken over the world and the next step will be the appearance of the anti christ who no doubt will be trans too. I mean it says in the bible he won't be interested in women and in Islam that he will never have children. Also that lots of women will follow him. Handmaidens.

Like the handmaiden at speakers corner who was happy her trans friend beat the shit out of a 60 year old woman and didn't even stand up for her fellow handmaiden who was shocked and tried to help the situation and was then intimidated and threatened herself. I do hope that young lady reached peak trans that night.

Fuck knows, I know I sound mad now, but this shit is worse than Orwell predicted in his novel. It just gets worse every day.

And everyone just assumes we are nasty terfs and the government will surely sort this whole confusing mess out as good sensible parents do. Well old Theresa has swallowed the kool aid too. What now? Maybe listen to feminists and support us?

Florence16 · 21/10/2017 23:20

It doesn’t feel like we can do anything to stop this. I can’t even muster any energy to try. I am genuinely very worried (sexually abused as a child for 5+ years). I don’t understand how we are going so backwards Sad

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