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to ask why is it acceptable to say you hate kids?

260 replies

allegretto · 16/10/2017 14:39

Prompted by a certain female comedien saying this (whom I love btw!), it seems that it is the last taboo. By all means say you are not a child-person, you don't want kids etc but HATE them? You wouldn't be able to say that about any other group of people (and kids are people), so why do people say it about children?

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CliffRichardsPenIs · 16/10/2017 15:06

bratsy That's a really good point.

SilverySurfer · 16/10/2017 15:07

Is is ok for me to say that I dislike children who are not disciplined by their parents and who rampage through shops and cafes unfettered? Who hit and bite, who are laughingly called 'free spirits' by their pathetic, ineffectual parents and who as little monsters will doubtless grow up to be big monsters? I feel hate is more appropriate when I think about the older group of school children who were walking towards me when one of them kicked my collapsable walking stick which propelled me painfully sprawling into a nearby hedge while the rest of them stood laughing. They laughed the other side of their faces after i went to the school and identified them.

Well, to be honest, whether it's ok or not, that's my opinion which is unlikely to change any time soon.

ShatnersWig · 16/10/2017 15:07

Surely it is just the flip side of saying I love children.
Which I think is a stupid thing to say.

Yes, and loads of people say it. Even though they are also the same people who might complain about one or two children they don't like because they bully their own children. It's just as much a sweeping generalisation.

CliffRichardsPenIs · 16/10/2017 15:07

Zaphod I wouldn't necessarily make the distinction between people under and over 16. I'd say "children" are under 13. I can't stand them.
I'd say "young people" are about 13-18 and I'm not at all keen on them either.

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velourvoyageur · 16/10/2017 15:08

Because children are not a threatened minority. Your comments will not harness undercurrents of thought present in society which will actually be harmful to the continued existence of children.

CliffRichardsPenIs · 16/10/2017 15:10

Bit sad y'all are missing out on interacting with some amazing people and influencing or sharing your story with some impressionable young minds because of some innate prejudice but hardly matters

I interact and share my story with impressionable young minds every day at work.

elfinpre · 16/10/2017 15:10

Children are very much a vulnerable and threatened group in society, the most vulnerable, in fact.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 16/10/2017 15:11

I say “I hate children”. It’s short-hand for “yes I know I’m a woman and I’ve had a child but that doesn’t mean I have any desire to willingly look after yours or anyone else’s for anything less than £1K an hour”.

allegretto · 16/10/2017 15:11

Because children are not a threatened minority.

Neither are women or old people.

Would you feel comfortable saying "I hate women/the elderly"?

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CliffRichardsPenIs · 16/10/2017 15:13

Milk

Or "Yes, I know I'm a woman but I have no desire to have children and I'm getting a bit fed up of people keep asking me when I'm having them. It's easier to say I hate children than to bat these fucking morons away with niceties like "Maybe one day" or "Oh not yet" or to make up some bullshit excuse like "I'm too into my career" to fit my actual opinion and choice into a socially acceptable narrative"

Or "Yes, I know I'm a woman but I can see no redeeming features of children at all"

CliffRichardsPenIs · 16/10/2017 15:14

Neither are women or old people

IHaveBrilloHair · 16/10/2017 15:15

MrsJayy I honestly don't understand them or get them at all, I can't relate to them, I find them annoying and a bit yuck.
I do spend time with friends children and am always surprised that I quite enjoyed it, but I'd never choose it.
I'm not mean to them at all btw and I didn't feel like that about my own but I only had one, by choice

MrsJayy · 16/10/2017 15:16

I am not saying I like all children i meet I just don't understand the I hate children as if it is some edgy cool statement

maddiemookins16mum · 16/10/2017 15:18

Hate is a very strong word I reserve for certain individuals and groups.
Also it's impossible to hate all kids surely! Most of the kids I've ever known have been fabulous youngsters.

drinkswineoutofamug · 16/10/2017 15:18

I don’t like kids, I couldn’t eat a full one.
I have 3 of my own but couldn’t say I actually always dreamed of having kids but was blessed with them. I tolerate other people’s kids. Does that make me a bad person?

Pickleypickles · 16/10/2017 15:18

Probably because hate is used loosely - most people who say they hate kids wouldnt actively try to harm a child infact most would probably do everything in there power to stop harm if they saw it occuring.
I hate cats. Horrible things that shit everywhere. However i would never harm one or stand by while someone else did.

Cappuccinoloverr · 16/10/2017 15:19

I hope those who hate children dont work with or have children. They can be exhausting, cheeky and out of control but if I'm honest I find adults much more mentally taxing than sweet, innocent children.

brasty · 16/10/2017 15:19

Children are individuals, some lovely ones, some horrible ones.
I don't love or hate all children. I love, like dislike or hate individuals, both children and adults.

GherkinSnatch · 16/10/2017 15:20

Firstly, this: Children are very much a vulnerable and threatened group in society, the most vulnerable, in fact.

Secondly: unfair treatment or discriminating against people based on age is in violation of the equality act, as far as Age UK are concerned. Why does that apply to pensioners and not children?

ShatnersWig · 16/10/2017 15:21

sweet, innocent children

What about the ones who aren't sweet and innocent?

allegretto · 16/10/2017 15:22

Neither are women or old people

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banivani · 16/10/2017 15:23

I also think it's ridiculous to say "oh I hate kids". So ludicrously hyperbolic. It's one thing to say something tongue in cheek or when you're exasperated, just to let of steam, but when people actually make a point of writing it down and shouting it from the rooftops it just makes them sound obnoxious and socially inept. I certainly don't think it's the last taboo. People have been saying it for years, expecting some sort of accolade for it #sobrave. You're not brave, you're just rude. And yes, I realise that there are a lot of people who don't seem to think it possible to be rude to children, but it is. And yes, I have my personal prejudices over in which countries it seems to be more ok to be a shit to those smaller than yourself too.

IHaveBrilloHair · 16/10/2017 15:24

Oh I would never say it publicly, in a serious way, that would be mean and nasty but my friends know I'm not a kid person, though I absolutely treat their kids well.
It's hard to explain without sounding like a bitch!
It's maybe less hate and more "don't get"?

When Dd was younger I'd get asked all the time when I was having another, even by people who knew I was single, it became my stock answer to say, "ewww, why would I, I hate kids", just to see the look on their face.

Cappuccinoloverr · 16/10/2017 15:25

What about the ones who aren't sweet and innocent

Who do you think they're learning from? Adults.

Children dont commit mass genocide or start wars do they?

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 16/10/2017 15:25

...sweet, innocent children.

I take it you’ve never helped out in a primary school Grin