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to ask why is it acceptable to say you hate kids?

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allegretto · 16/10/2017 14:39

Prompted by a certain female comedien saying this (whom I love btw!), it seems that it is the last taboo. By all means say you are not a child-person, you don't want kids etc but HATE them? You wouldn't be able to say that about any other group of people (and kids are people), so why do people say it about children?

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GerdaLovesLili · 17/10/2017 08:59

But what are weddings for if not for all generation of friends and family to meet up and celebrate?

They are for the two people getting married to celebrate in the way that they most want. Which may or may not include any or all family or friends.

What has that got to do with a comedian saying she "hates children"?

Bicyclethief · 17/10/2017 09:05

Cause in some instances it is symptomatic of I hate children culture. Exclude, children should be seen and not heard, that's all.

Will skulk away now and never mention wedding everGrin

timeforbedsleepyhead80 · 17/10/2017 09:26

I think people say 'hate' in a flippant way sometimes. I doubt many people truly hate children. Find them annoying yes, but not hate.

I don't hate children, but I'm not a huge fan, in general. I adore my own, obviously, and there are a few others who I'm close to who I also love. However, kids as a group I mostly find irritating. I also find my own annoying on occasion, who doesn't?

I think it's a clash of parenting styles sometimes, or occasionally a lack of decent parenting. I don't mind spending time with children who are well behaved. I have several friends who parent differently to me and I don't like the way their children behave so I choose to mostly see them in adult time. I would never dream of being mean to their kids, but I find them wearing and I've reached an age in life where now I don't feel I have to put myself in situations during my free time that I don't enjoy.

Ohyesiam · 17/10/2017 11:06

Ha ha, did you hear her today? She explained her hatred in a lot more detail.
It was v funny.
I guess she bangs on about it as a backlash from the whole " there must be something wrong with you if to don't want kids" that she has had so much of.

blackteasplease · 17/10/2017 11:09

We all used to be kids so it seems a bit of a daft thing to say.

I think they mean they hate being around kids or dislike being around them. You wouldn't hate them in terms of wanting to cause them harm (unless there was a lot more wrong with you).

Saying you hate being around kids is fine I think.

EvilDoctorBallerinaVampireDuck · 17/10/2017 11:30

There's one particular boy in DS2's class who I want to yell at to stop whinging and being a manipulative little shit. He's 6, he should grow the fuck up. I tell him to give something of DS2's back, he tells DS2 he's not his friend anymore. Hmm

GrandmaSuckingEggs · 17/10/2017 12:14

But what do we actually mean by "hate"?

To me, it's a normalise hyperbolic way of saying "dislike", "not interested" etc. So, I might say "I hate Top Gear" as "hate" is the most appropriate way for me to describe my feelings. However, for others, "hate" might mean "want to cause harm".

It's the same with the word "love"- what does that mean?

My FIL gets very weird if you say you "love" something as, for him, that word should only be reserved for people you'd die for. I think that's a weird interpretation and I say "I love pizza" or "I love autumn" to mean "I have a very strong feeling of liking this".

I think it depends on your interpretation of the word.

I would say I "hate" children as it's short-hand for me saying "I'm completely uninterested in them. I don't want to spend any time with them. I don't want to hear them. I don't want to hear about them. I don't care about children's issues. I don't want to see pictures of them. I don't want to have them".

But that's quite long-winded and it's much easier to say "I hate kids" though I guess I'd usually say "I can't stand kids" rather than "hate" though I can't explain why or what the difference is.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 17/10/2017 13:17

If you hate children, you are hating them for their age
I usually dislike the company of children and do sometimes say I hate them but that's tongue in cheek. What I really mean is that I dislike (immensly) the normal behaviours of children; the noise they make when they're excited (arrgh, I seriously find it very hard to tolerate, like nails down a blackboard), the noise they make when they're not getting their own way, their selfishness, the crying, the wining, the grizzling, the tantrums, the running around and getting in the way...I hate those traits and as those traits are the norm in children then I think I can say I dislike kids until they reach an age where it isn't the norm for them to be so annoying. I didn't even like those behaviours when I was a kid myself and often found friend's younger siblings very irritating. Plus I'd hate to sacrifice so much of my life, emotionally and financially, to raising children (and I do believe that being a good parent is about sacrificing a lot of your life).

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 17/10/2017 13:33

People are free to invite who they want. I just think since my child is part of my immediate family it polite to do so but I can understand why some people can't for financial reasons,

It is exceptionally self- absorbed to think your immediate family should be included in an invitation unless there is a financial reason not to.

Hating children is pretty ridiculous but your assumption that it is impolite not to include your children is equally ridiculous so perhaps the former results from the latter.

I honestly am gobsmacked at the idea an invitation to an adult should automatically include their child.

Theresamayscough · 17/10/2017 13:39

This isn’t a wedding thread but o agree totally with Lass many people find their own children tolerable and don’t realise they are not Grin

We had 5 kids now all grown up and we choose child free hotels Wink

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