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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

... to feel like dirt under DH's shoes?

424 replies

ShirleyValentineTwo · 12/10/2017 23:17

Feeling sorry for myself and wondering why I have let it get so bad. At the end of most exchanges with DH, I end up feeling I have said something wrong as he invariably looks down his nose at me.

We started off equally qualified with me as the most likely to succeed according to our track record (e.g. publications, opinions of peers) but I habitually did all the shopping, cooking, cleaning as well as holding down one or two jobs at a time. I pushed for setting ourselves up property-wise whilst he met up with friends for skittles, football, pub evenings etc.

Once we were comfortably off, I could see he delighted in the status of us having more money than our peers (through my efforts mostly) and we decided to try for a family. He had prior to this gone off on a conference with a female colleague after telling me he was going with his male boss and it wasn't appropriate for me to join them. I found out about this lie from another colleague and DH didn't deny the female colleague and he went alone but made excuses that we weren't getting along and he had to get away for a bit but she wasn't the reason, only happened to be going too.

Anyway, we had a DC and I carried on working and struggling with my extra business until it was clear I could give up my academic job and be a SAHM but with more income from my business coming in and making us quite comfortable. He was free to 'work' late in comfy academia with conferences, meetings and many intelligent people to liaise with and never having to do school pickups, half-terms, sickness or any other parental duties. In fact, he was not very hands-on with DC and I am still sad and bitter about this loss to DC.

Roll forward two decades later and he is now sauntering home late into the evening, barely speaking to me and when he shares some snippet from work and I dare to offer some opinion on some practice his many female colleagues (academia is female-heavy these days) carry out, he derides me, looks at me like I am scum, often walks off and tops it with the silent treatment.

He has moved out of our bedroom complaining I snore. I have taken to drinking over half a bottle of wine waiting for him to get home whilst I cook his dinner. I still do all the cooking, cleaning, housekeeping, pet care as well as maintaining the sideline business. But I am no longer an 'academic' and my opinion counts for nothing.

AIBU to think I am a waste of space in his life nowadays? That he would benefit more from my being dead as that's what I feel he is waiting for?

OP posts:
PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2017 03:03

Just because you didnt hear what you wanted to hear doesnt mean that the solutions offered are not worthwhile.

The issue is that you are not currently able to accept just how much of an abusive relationship you are in. It takes time.

We will be here for you for as long as it takes.

ptumbi · 20/10/2017 08:21

he is now sauntering home late into the evening, barely speaking to me...
academia is female-heavy these days
he derides me, looks at me like I am scum, often walks off and tops it with the silent treatment.

He has moved out of our bedroom
I still do all the cooking, cleaning, housekeeping, pet care as well as maintaining the sideline business. But I am no longer an 'academic' and my opinion counts for nothing.

All from your OP.

You have 2 choices. Leave (please leave) or stay and put up with it. BUT be aware - you have no marriage. He is not sleeping with you. (He's getting it elsewhere, guaranteed) He treats you like a housekeeper. He barely talks to you. He doesn't like you, let alone love you. he doesn't respect you.

You have NO marriage.

Your OP also ends with
he would benefit more from my being dead as that's what I feel he is waiting for? - why dead? PA much? Just leave, it will have the same effect - except you get to live a full, happy, peaceful and possibly even love-filled life.

Greyponcho · 20/10/2017 08:38

he treats you like a housekeeper

^^ this... except a housekeeper wouldn’t put up for being spoken to in such an awful way and have her opinions belittled.

OP, why do you feel you don’t deserve happiness?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/10/2017 09:29

How about this for a potential solution: write down what you feel duty bound to do and why. Analyse whether there are other ways to live by those values without sacrificing your life?

Be ready for him to physically leave you. He has already left you emotionally, romantically, socially and sexually. All that remains is his physical presence in the house sometimes and the laundry he generates.

crazycatlady5 · 20/10/2017 09:42

Why do you need to stick it out? My dad was like this and my mum stayed with him 10 years too long ‘for me’ and it only left me feeling terribly sorry for her that she wasted her younger years. Please get out and enjoy your life, for my mums sake! Flowers

Lloyd45 · 20/10/2017 10:01

What if he leaves you before 2 years? By what you have written he sounds like he is having an affair.

lurkingnotlurking · 20/10/2017 10:13

Here's an idea: start watching Mad Men on Netflix. And quit the alcoholism.

Melony6 · 20/10/2017 10:57

I think some counselling is the first thing because your beliefs seem confused. I could understand a sense of duty if he had a terminal illness and you felt obliged to help due to the length of relationship or you sitting drinking in the evening if you were unable or scared to go and do something else or more fun, but it’s not the case . Why are you trapped like this. Is there something in your childhood which needs examined or worked through.

ShirleyValentineTwo · 20/10/2017 19:22

"What if he leaves you before 2 years? "

Win - Win

My life would be easier, for sure. I'll know he'll be happy (as it's his choice) and hence feel no guilt (my nemesis).

OP posts:
Lloyd45 · 20/10/2017 19:36

Oh good I hope you have this out come, it would be a win win for the whole family, why not discuss it with your husband, everyone could move on with there luves

Lloyd45 · 20/10/2017 19:36

Lives I meant

Lloyd45 · 20/10/2017 19:38

Living in limbo isn't good for anyone

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 20/10/2017 19:42

Darling you don't seem happy with me , or seem to like me or respect me . I set you free - bye

But he won't I bet you ! If only life was that easy

Drug him with viagra before his next ladies academic night

Mix56 · 20/10/2017 20:38

Shirley, interesting reponse on the wifework thread.
The OP on there might feel guilt also, let's just hope her Nemesis is different from yours

scootinFun · 20/10/2017 21:17

Indeed Mix

CoyoteCafe · 20/10/2017 22:30

Then at least go sort out your business with a lawyer so if he leaves you (and the children) are covered.

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2017 22:38

How much easier will it be when he has walked off with half of your business and so you are not as financially independent as you think you will be?

Nanny0gg · 20/10/2017 23:09

I don't get this.

I don't get this at all.

fullofhope03 · 20/10/2017 23:35

What do you feel would be a worthwhile solution?
And guilt for what/who exactly?
Because I'm struggling to believe it's for your husband. And if it's for you DC then please don't feel guilty.
My parents marriage was not good. Mum loved Dad. I never felt that he had much regard for her. That affected my brother and I deeply.
To this day - and we're now in our 50's.
Nothing about that or your current situation (or mindset) is positive.
It's deeply sad.

Motoko · 20/10/2017 23:56

Me neither Nanny.

fullofhope03 · 20/10/2017 23:58

Sorry to be so blunt - But your situation is too awful and such a waste of your life and potential happiness Flowers

Melony6 · 21/10/2017 01:55

If DH choosing to leave is your nemesis then I would guess that something happened in your parent’s marriage and your childhood that means you leaving a marriage is unacceptable to you. And if that’s the case why would you bother to start the thread at all.

splendidisolation · 21/10/2017 08:21

@ShirleyValentineTwo

I dont know if you've seen my "He's from the country" thread?

I can relate to how you feel on some level - not being mistreated (which is what hea doing to you) by my DP, but this idea that a part of you has died, the intellectual part.

ptumbi · 21/10/2017 08:43

So that is why you don't really mind him going out with female academics? You are secretly hoping he does fancy one of them enough to go off with her, thus freeing you from the task of actually doing something about your situation? You don't love your dh any more than he loves you. Leave.

  • you feel 'duty' bound to stay with him, regardless of how he treats you.
hence feel no guilt (my nemesis). and you'd feel guilty if you kicked him out.

You are also terrified of the actual kicking out/standing up for yourself bit.

The FOG (Fear Obligation Guilt) is keeping you there.

Try the Freedom Program. It's designed to give you more self-esteem.
Try Womans Aid. They can help you with the practicalities of actually leaving.

Greyponcho · 21/10/2017 11:29

What are the chances that the DC are worried about you, about your unhappiness and situation?
And unless they have gone to university on Mars, they will have picked up on something