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AIBU?

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To not like how we're doing Christmas this year?

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BlueButTrue · 11/10/2017 20:38

SIL (I think was the first time announce it, can't remember), has said we aren't getting each other's children presents this year (so nieces and nephews).

MIL announced that there will be no Christmas dinner, just 'picky bits' Confused

I've never known a Christmas like it.

I told my own DM what's going on and she said "well aren't you a bit put out, you always spent a fortune on their children every year yet now you'll have your own baby this year, he won't be getting anything?"

My answer was no, I'm fine with it, because I hate tat and don't like clutter/things I dislike in my house Grin

The Christmas dinner thing is always really bothering me.

AIBU to suggest to the family that instead of no presents for each other's children, we see a strict spending limit for each child and have to stick to it? So maybe £10 a child or something and that's strictly it so no one feels embarrassed?

The no present thing is more because BIL and wife, and SIL can't really afford to this year. But we aren't loaded either, and I always manage it easily - I buy well in advance and look out for offers.

Would you be happy with no Christmas dinner and no present sharing?

OP posts:
gamerchick · 15/10/2017 14:37

Cheers drk Grin

Yeah I like the idea above. The baby won’t care and it means a relaxing time for you.

Kardashianlove · 15/10/2017 16:02

Why does he have to do everything I want?
It doesn't sound like he's desperate to stay at home, where as you are desperate to go to your mums. If he had said he really wants to stay home just the 3 of you and he wanted to go to lots of effort to cook a lovely dinner, etc then I would see his point. But you say he can't/won't cook and it sounds like he's just saying he wants to stay at home to avoid going to your mums.

Can you maybe agree to do what you want one year and what he wants the next?

HeebieJeebies456 · 15/10/2017 23:38

But in the same way, why should he go along with what I want and not have his Christmas at home where he's most comfortable/thinks it'll be most relaxed?

Errr.....because there is a thing called BEING FAIR and CONSIDERATE?
So far each christmas together has been based around his family....it's only fair that your own mother gets a look-in - plus the fact that this will be her FIRST GRANDCHILD'S FIRST CHRISTMAS AND SHE'S SUPER EXCITED TO BE A PART OF IT!

Your husband only wants a christmas at home so he can AVOID MAKING AN EFFORT WITH YOUR FAMILY!
Have you forgotten his attitude and language towards your mum/siblings already?

In a healthy relationship there is give and take on BOTH sides.....in yours it's all about kowtowing to his family and his dictats.

But hey - if you want to be a muggins go right ahead.....we'll still be here when you finally wake up and smell the coffee.

Holldstock1 · 16/10/2017 10:00

OP, I have read all the thread, but it was so back and forth and I'm in a rush, so I may have got the wrong end of the stick - so apologies for that if I do.

Christmas is always alot of pressure whether you are hosting it, going to family etc etc. I've been married 19 years and only last year did we get an immediate family only Christmas as home. This year will be the same (hopefully!).

If SIL wants to duck out of presents I would suggest just go with it, even if its annoying. I personally love giving presents as its my way of showing someone they are special and I've thought about them, but for some people its just not that important or a priority, and at the end of the day if they are skint they are skint. I think you should try and understand that. Yes you might see them spending money on other things but at the end of the day its up to them to decide how to spend their money. Would you want them analyzing and judging what you are spending your family's money on? You and I don't really know what money pressures or priorities they have, so I'd just step back and give them a break on this.

While I love giving people presents and surprises, I don't really understand why there is such pressure over Christmas presents - one year we even did no presents for ourselves but donated present money giving to charities where it could make a real difference around the world.

Marriage is a compromise. And Christmas is a pretty difficult one because there is always alot of pressure to be with family, or do it a particular way etc.

I think you already said you and DH have reached a compromise that you go to your DM who will chauffeur you back and forth? If he has compromised about that, then you should compromise about not going to stay overnight. Yes, I understand it would be easier, and would mean your mum not cooking and driving, but at the end of the day he has already agreed. There needs to be give and take on both sides. Perhaps when he sees it in practice he would be more reasonable another time?

Can I say that the suggestion you have Christmas at your place next year is sensible. By that stage your little one will be crawling or walking and into everything. Often its alot easier in your own home where everything has been child proofed to the appropriate age of your child.

You and DH need to have a sensible discussion about Christmas Eves, Days and Boxing Days. You are about to have your own family. I would just say, don't get into the trap of it always being a certain way (unless of course you both feel the same). I have cooked Christmas Dinner including when I had young babies for 17 years. DH cooked twice once when I had done my knee in, and once when he said he wanted a cheaper Christmas (but ended up spending more because instead of making everything he bought it all). That's partly because I'm a good cook and like your MIL I like things done in a certain way - although I would appreciate more help.

We have always hosted it at ours and I did all the cooking for family or friends.

Sit down with your DH and decide how you will both make your own traditions. It may include compromise on both your parts. I'd be thinking of alternating his family, stay at home and your family in whatever order you want to do it. You may find you also want to think about hosting sometimes (but I wouldn't get trapped into it every time you spend Christmas at home). Remember also you will have a young baby, then a toddler etc. Children have different needs at different times in their lives, and you may find that Family plans for a particular year don't always mesh with your needs as a family.

I'm glad to hear that your DH can cook dinners (it was abit misleading when you said he couldn't cook - I too felt that sense of feminine outrage about lazy men!). Even if you ended up having Christmas at home, I don't see why it would be a problem with him cooking, or even sharing (better) the task between you. If either he or you haven't done a Christmas dinner before (I'm not sure of that but getting that feeling - sorry if I'm jumping to conclusions), you sometimes just have to bite the bullet. I understand if you stayed at home this year, you would have a young baby - but it is perfectly possible especially if you plan, cook and freeze in advance - I've done that with Christmas food (though not the meat), and with vegetarian food when we've had vegetarians coming.

Hope you work it out!

BananaSandwichesEveryDay · 16/10/2017 18:09

HeebieJeebies456

But in the same way, why should he go along with what I want and not have his Christmas at home where he's most comfortable/thinks it'll be most relaxed?

Errr.....because there is a thing called BEING FAIR and CONSIDERATE?
So far each christmas together has been based around his family....it's only fair that your own mother gets a look-in - plus the fact that this will be her FIRST GRANDCHILD'S FIRST CHRISTMAS AND SHE'S SUPER EXCITED TO BE A PART OF IT!

No, So far each christmas together has not been based around his family. On has stated that her ils have only known her for two Christmases and separately, she's said they haven't spent more time with his family than with hers. So, actually, it sounds like they've actually spent one Christmas with each. And I still fail to see why the ops wishes automatically Trump her husband's. She's also said he's willing to cook the dinner if they stay home. To be honest, it really sounds to me that the of is the one throwing her toys out of the pram. Definitely easier to stay home this year with a baby that age.
And as for the opportunity who said that not driving is 'deeply unattractive'in an adult male. We have no idea why that is. Cost could be a big part of it. Driving lessons are very expensive. It may be that he's lived in a place where it's not worth the cost as public transport is very good - I understand that a lot of people in London and other big cities don't drive for this reason. Or maybe he just didn't want to. Not everyone does - I didn't want to drive and it was only in my mid thirties that it became a necessity for me. Whatever the reason can you imagine the outcry if someone made the same comment about a woman.

DrKrogersfavouritepatient · 17/10/2017 06:37

Bananasandwiches
It does seem imo that it should be MamaBluebuttrue's turn for a Christmas visit this year given they were at MILs house last year. Why was it already decided that they were to Christmas at mil'snthis year?
And compromise isn't just about meeting half way and lobbing an even number of conditions off each other's requests so the not staying over is not an automatic concession in this case, largely because it's the small who has to bear the brunt of that decision. It's so ungracious to begrudgingly accept an invitation to Christmas and expect to be driven back and forth by the host. It's the sort of behaviour one tends to see in a curmudgeonly old relation tbh.
My preference would be a Christmas at home and this should be the arrangement for ever more imo, but I believe that she is suggesting this simply as a way of avoid going to his mil, which I think is less valid as a motivation especially as blue is so keen "desperate" to go there.
It's completely reasonable btw for me to have preferences about those traits in a person I find attractive or unattractive. Lots of ppl are "turned off" by things other ppl choose (tattoos, being vegan, beards, being a smoker, being of a different political persuasion...)

RavingRoo · 17/10/2017 06:48

Nothing stopping you and baby to do christmas at your mums and your dh going to mil’s. If they aren’t doing presents or food there’s no point going really - sounds like a waste of a christmas.

Ankleswingers · 17/10/2017 07:00

I haven't read through the entire thread but from reading your comments back to pp, it sounds very much like you wanted 'tea and sympathy ' on here op rather than actually doing something about it and changing things.

I don't mean that harshly but stop putting Mil, Sil etc before your own needs.

You want a Christmas dinner and DH can't cook?

Get your arse ( or order online ) a Christmas meal with all the trimmings from M and S. Cooking instructions are a piece of piss and are step by step.

Either that or go to your own mothers for dinner.

Ok, Mil is ten minutes down the road?

What's to stop you from going there after you have had your Christmas lunch? It's not like you'll be missing a great deal
as all she is serving as a meal is 'picky bits'.

Regarding the presents, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest but they do sound a mean bunch considering it'll be your DC first Christmas and will be a few weeks old- yet they can't and won't buy him a present.

Either put up with it or implement some changes.

Simples.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 17/10/2017 07:21

This is why DH, DS and I spend Christmas at home. And also why we can both drive and both cook.

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