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How to stop brexit and make Britain great again

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SupportTheresaElseBoris · 09/10/2017 20:53

So Nick Clegg has a new book out called How to stop brexit and make Britain great again.

Aibu to think its time to just get on with brexit and stop this uncertainty? It didn't work for the lib Dems at the ellection and it now seems like dragging it on for as long as possible will make the worst of a bad situation.

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Theworldisfullofidiots · 09/10/2017 23:02

Very very poor people dug the spuds. Before our standards of living rose. You know before we joined the EU. It was their holiday. Fancy doing it?

giggly · 09/10/2017 23:04

Eh who's responsible for paying the pittance? That'll be the British employers. And where are the British workers out toiling the land?

sonlypuppyfat · 09/10/2017 23:05

Spud bashing everyone did it in their holidays

ASatisfyingThump · 09/10/2017 23:06

But the spud farmers aren't exactly going to put the wages up, are they? They'll keep them at a pittance it's impossible to live on, and nobody will want the jobs. And the cost of living is only going to go up.

And you can't get a DRs appointment because of the bullshit new systems they've put in. My surgery always has available appts on the day, but I have a hell of a time booking routine stuff in advance.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 09/10/2017 23:08

sonlypuppyfat presume you will be the first one in the field. Can't wait to see your photos.

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SupportTheresaElseBoris · 09/10/2017 23:13

I'm pretty sure spuds are dug by a machine. Berries and asparagus would be a much better example.

There is a real problem with younger people getting a "Saturday job" thesedays. People picking fruit can get tax credits and housing benefit so they can have a reasonable level of income in a rural area.

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sonlypuppyfat · 09/10/2017 23:14

Don't worry I'd pick them

notangelinajolie · 09/10/2017 23:15

I can't see it getting on the best sellers list.

Bombardier25966 · 09/10/2017 23:26

People picking fruit can get tax credits and housing benefit so they can have a reasonable level of income in a rural area.

According to other Brexiteers the country has no money left, yet you're suggesting it's ok for people be more reliant on state funds.

This is why it's turned into such a joke, people using entirely opposing arguments for why we should leave. If you want to convince remainers why leaving is the right thing then at least get your reasons straight.

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SupportTheresaElseBoris · 10/10/2017 06:46

I voted remain Hmm

Many on mn were telling me a few months to get over it i lost, and now it's turned the other way Confused

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Flossy1978 · 10/10/2017 06:50

How on earth did Britain survive before the EU? Gees.... get over it people. Enough of the Nation wants out from this EU Dictatorship and last I heard Britain was still a Democratic. So you anti-Brexit people lost. Maybe you should concentrate on how to make Britain "great again" yourselves, instead of constantly moaning and whinging cause you lost?

This goes for the Trump losers too.

MongerTruffle · 10/10/2017 06:56

we seriously need to stop immigration . We can't afford to support them all and our own on welfare

If, after 6 months, EEA and Swiss citizens who have come to the UK cannot support themselves, then we are allowed to send them back. The British Government has decided not to exercise this right. There are also strict residency requirements for anyone who applies for welfare. We have total control over immigration from the other 165 countries in the world, as we have not signed the Schengen Agreement.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 10/10/2017 06:56

All I know is our NHS is struggling with the influx and something needs to be done. I already can't get a drs appointment before three months as it is and more gps are closing

Typical brexiteer. Go on explain how things are going to improve post brexit for the NHS?
I really want to hear this.

Is your argument really that when the lazy immigrants go home there will be less strain on the NHS?!!

My god.

Brexit is going to be disastrous for this country as virtually every economist, scientist, business person, politician could tell you. It will profit only the very wealthy.

But you know better. Tell us.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 10/10/2017 06:58

I know how to make Britain great again (such a crap slogan). Stay in the EU.
All this great again is a myth. We were only 'great' because we exploited other countries via the empire.
The EU was our life line. Brexitscepticism is here to stay.
The future is this. You won. Stop whining. Suck it up.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 10/10/2017 07:02

You brexiteers have fucked over this country and the funny thing is most of you are too dim to realise how bad things are going to get.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 10/10/2017 07:09

^this
I'm so angry today. Education funding is terrible. We are not going to get any more. Why? Low pound and brexit. No more money in Hammond's war chest.
Even if we came to our senses it would take a decade to get over the last year.
But don't worry about your children's education. They can pick potatoes. FFS.

PostNotInHaste · 10/10/2017 07:20

'All I know is our NHS is struggling with the influx and something needs to be done. I already can't get a drs appointment before three months as it is and more gps are closing'

So looking at this statement the implication is that a GP appointment can't be got as immigration is stretching the GP surgeries too thin. Going with this it would imply that in areas with very few immigrants things it will be ok to get a GP appointment.

However that doesn't work as the above is my area. I'm fine getting a GP appointment however my friends at other local surgeries have to wait generally a couple of weeks and blood tests appointments are generally 3 weeks it seems - apart from mine where I rang in a Tuesday and had one for the Thursday.

So we're an area of very very small numbers of immigrants with most surgeries having waiting times for a couple of weeks, but one surgery coping very well. Is it not logical to conclude that some other factor is in play here rather than immigrants given that there aren't really any here ?

I suspect the answer is that our local population is skewed towards a greater number of elderly who are presumably heavier users of the NHS as we are a popular retirement area . A paramedic who attended a friend said this is the reason that ambulance waits are a good few hours. But there must also be other factors at play between surgeries or you wouldn't have one where you can get seen quickly.

BowlingShoes · 10/10/2017 07:33

How on earth did Britain survive before the EU

I hear this all the time. It's such a stupid argument. The world has changed completely since then. Now almost all of our closest neighbours and trading partners are in the EU. Globalisation has happened and everything is done on a much more integrated scale. Virtually every country in the world is part of a regional trading bloc. We are even further from the days of Empire and the UK's political and economic power now lies within its role as a key member of the EU. Look at the recent trade dispute with the US over Bombardier. When a similar thing happened over steel tariffs, the EU stepped in and used their weight as bargaining power.

Brexit doesn't just roll back the clock forty years. Everyone else has moved on.

EdithWeston · 10/10/2017 07:36

The 'Great' part of 'Great Britain' refers to it being the largest of the British Isles.

I don't like it when people use it jingoistically.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 10/10/2017 07:38

I think your too generous to call that an arguement. I thought it was something people bleated to make themselves feel superior and instead makes them look thick.

stripysleeves · 10/10/2017 07:47

Blahblahboo it's people like you who worry me most.

You think we'll be better off? That's not true. We're going to be a lot worse off.

You're sick of EU rules? Wait till you see the rules the US impose on us to trade with them.

You think we don't need immigration? Most immigrants come here and pay tax. They are a net benefit to the country both financially and with the skills they bring here (e.g. medical - so many immigrants in the NHS). If you think they're a drain on the country you've fallen for the propaganda.

If you like the NHS - watch what happens to it when we start trading with the US. It'll be gone.

What are all the people like you going to do when you realise you've been sold a crock of shit? Or will you even realise? When the effects of Brexit start to hit and you feel worse off will you finally get what you've voted for was a total fuck up or will you blame whoever the media tell you to, so you don't ever blame the Tories who led us into this mess.

HipToBeSquare · 10/10/2017 08:27

I know someone who is saying that immigration needs to stop as there are no houses in London. DH and I are immigrants but I don't think she even realised what she was saying to me.

And the old chestnut 'we were fine before we entered the EU' really makes me think they haven't thought this through at all. The UK entered it a long time ago and as a pp said, times have changed so much so that in all honesty, who would want to go back to that anyway?

Isabella70 · 10/10/2017 08:33

"I'm sick of having to listen to Brussels with all the stupid rules and regulations"

Which rule or regulation would you like to get rid of?

maxthemartian · 10/10/2017 08:41

*How on earth did Britain survive before the EU? Gees.... get over it people. Enough of the Nation wants out from this EU Dictatorship and last I heard Britain was still a Democratic. So you anti-Brexit people lost. Maybe you should concentrate on how to make Britain "great again" yourselves, instead of constantly moaning and whinging cause you lost?

This goes for the Trump losers too.*

And here we have it. The towering intellectual genius of a Brexiter.

RandomlyGenerated · 10/10/2017 08:47

Isabella here’s a handy list of all the “stupid rules and regulations”, helpfully compiled for us by the EU itself:

blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

After you’ve read a few you’ll soon spot the trend for which bits of the UK media have been busy expounding this drivel.

Swipe left for the next trending thread