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Theresa Mays speech

233 replies

Joeymaynardslimegreendress · 04/10/2017 23:01

Carry on up the kiber? The dinner scene Grin

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Areyoulocal · 05/10/2017 09:35

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MargoLovebutter · 05/10/2017 09:36

Painful to watch. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

As a woman, it pains me to see another woman in a position of authority so undermined by a twatty prankster, illness and stage management issues. It is still hard for women to get into positions of power and regardless of where I stand on politics, I felt sad that she was humiliated.

I dislike most politicians and don't trust them or think that they have integrity, so part of me thinks - well you put yourself up there, you wanted this & if you are prepared to be a politician, then you have to suck up the good bits as well as the bad.

I think the human side of me wins over and I honestly don't think I'd wish that kind of a car crash on anyone.

Threehoursfromhome · 05/10/2017 09:36

No one would care about the comedian if May was in a strong position, if the Brexit negotiations were proceeding, if not well, then proceeding, if she had an overall majority, if Boris did not feel in a strong enough position to be giving interviews on his red lines in the right wing press. In those circumstances, a comedian waving a P45 and shouting 'Boris told me to give this to you' would be ridiculed.

I don't think the prank is funny, but it is on point. May is in a weak position and Boris wants her job. This is the truth of the matter. Satire doesn't have to be funny but it does have to be accurate.

MiraiDevant · 05/10/2017 09:37

It was bad luck and she got on with it. Good for her. Didn't feel sorry for her - thought she did a good job. Many of us would have had to have gone to work with a cold - no sick pay - so would have experienced the same.

Focus on the politics which are up for debate and were voted on by the population.

The demonisation of leaders is ridiculous. If enough people want to change policy it will happen - we vote for it. If we don't then it stays.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/10/2017 09:38

In a sea of foot stamping, egotistical drama queens all in it for their own ends (MPs across all the parties), Theresa May is someone I trust to rise above the shit & do her job.

She has proven repeatedly that she doesn’t run & hide & can take the all shit thrown at her, unlike others.
David Cameron: spineless twat that flounced at the very point he should have been proving his mettle.
Gordon Osborne: flounced when TM refused to massage his outrageous ego.
Boris Johnson: duplicitous egomaniac.
Etc etc
And the very idea of Corbyn’s Labour in power is just horrific.

specialsubject · 05/10/2017 09:49

Woman has bad cold.

The sheep like bleating at the labour conference was more frightening. Corbyn could say ' come on , grow up' except he seems to enjoy it. ' four legs good, two legs bad', anyone.

BTW that energy price cap means we will all see even higher rises than the 30 % over the last year. Anyone bothered?

JoffreyBaratheon · 05/10/2017 09:56

Whoever did that lettering deserves an award. They can't not have known that might happen... Brilliant.

Threehoursfromhome · 05/10/2017 10:00

Tbh specialsubject and I am working in an energy policy field I think we have bigger and more immediate problems to deal with then a price cap which may or may not happen. Energy generation is in a huge state of flux at the moment. We have OPEC, the US and Russia all engaged in price wars and political machinations over the price of gas, we have a number of new disruptive techs coming onto the market, we have climate change.

Energy generation in thirty years time is not going to look anything like it does today, but the changes are going are not going to be because of a price cap.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2017 10:06

She has a serious health problem:
sharp stabbing pains in the back from Boris Johnson in particular

The Tory party is ruthless about decapitating leaders who have become a liability

However, those optimists who think things couldn't get any worse under Boris:
The bar is very low, but he'll still wriggle under it

IdontlooklikeEmmaWatson · 05/10/2017 10:06

"She's not being set up to fail. This situation is a direct result of her calling an election, which she did not have to call, and losing her party the overall majority."

I agree.

Astonishing how some Tory voters, who routinely bang on about personal responsibility and claim people's adverse circumstances are all their own fault whilst people' successes are all down to their hard work and not a tiny bit of luck or even inherited privilege, have pity with this woman and blame her ineffectiveness as PM on 'mean people'.

Interesting that the same Tory supporters have no empathy with families dealing with disability or chronic disease and who are struggling to live adequately without state support.

Odd isn't it? Double standards?

It's all about the deserving and undeserving isn't it? Naice middle class Theres May is deserving of the public's sympathy but a working class or immigrant individual who faces hard times is to blame themselves for falling on head times. Confused

IdontlooklikeEmmaWatson · 05/10/2017 10:09

*hard times.

"Whoever did that lettering deserves an award. They can't not have known that might happen... Brilliant."
I am wondering about this. How can you time sticky letters to fall off at a certain time?

Uokbing · 05/10/2017 10:16

I do agree that as Tory leaders go, she is alright. She will stand there and take a fuck tonne of shit on the chin, unlike her predecessor who ran off crying like a baby when things didn't go his way, leaving everything in turmoil.

That P45 stunt just wasn't all that funny, I was cringing for that guy.

Tanith · 05/10/2017 10:17

“She has proven repeatedly that she doesn’t run & hide & can take the all shit thrown at her, unlike others.”

So has Jeremy Corbyn.

TheresaMay · 05/10/2017 10:19

Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/10/2017 10:19

So has Jeremy Corbyn

Unless itsvissues in his own party....

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/10/2017 10:20

*It's issues

Joeymaynardslimegreendress · 05/10/2017 10:31

The tories arnt the only ones ruthless to their leaders they all are.

Personally I agree that it’s a fucking poison challace with Brexit and I also know Corbyns policies would be a bloody disaster as does anyone sensible who remembers the 70s.

There’s no one competent and when you think about Brexit farce we are going to hell in a hand basket

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/10/2017 10:40

The tories arnt the only ones ruthless to their leaders they all are.

They are by far the most brutal.

When the 1922 committee say it's time to go. You go.

JoffreyBaratheon · 05/10/2017 10:43

You can't time the letters falling off but you can go ahead and do some set dressing on such a public stage, where it would be so humiliating if they did, using a system where you know that could possibly happen... It was asking for trouble. What were they? Kiddies' fridge magnet letters? What's wrong with projecting something, or using a poster, or something with a fixed graphic?

It would be better if the "o", "r" and "y" had dropped off "country" on cue. But we can't have anything.

Amber Rudd at the end.... She's a piece of work! Face liked a slapped arse. I loved the whole thing. Took the concept of SHAMBLES to the highest level I've ever seen at a conference. Like performance art.

thegreylady · 05/10/2017 10:43

Lifelong Labour voter here but I felt so sorry for her.

Joeymaynardslimegreendress · 05/10/2017 10:52

Na piglet they are all bloody ruthless but the tories see it as a badge of honour whilst labour are sly about it.

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FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/10/2017 11:01

*Interesting that the same Tory supporters have no empathy with families dealing with disability or chronic disease and who are struggling to live adequately without state support.

Odd isn't it? Double standards?*

People on this thread, or are you projecting and/or generalising?

picklemepopcorn · 05/10/2017 11:02

I hate the way this is being reported and commented on. I am not a Tory, but she does not deserve the spite being aimed at her over this speech.

Joeymaynardslimegreendress · 05/10/2017 11:10

FFs you can vote Tory and b an arse or be a decent person and same goes for labour.

This childish bullocks that all tories are beyond the pale and labour all saints really pisses me off.

It’s a new childishness and stupidity stifling debate just like Brexit has and it’s a really bad thing for democracy.

I don’t agree with May or Corbyn but I think they are fundamentally decent people.

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FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 05/10/2017 11:19

FFs you can vote Tory and b an arse or be a decent person and same goes for labour.

YY to this (and to the rest of that post in fact).

I actually like TM - JC comes across as a genuine person too to be fair.

As it stands though, at this point in time I’d far rather TM as PM & the Tories in govt, than JC & the current Labour agenda & front bench.