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To be pissed off with the flight time DH chose?

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Writerwannabe83 · 21/09/2017 13:42

A few months ago I went on holiday with DH and DS who had just turned 3 years old.

My husband is the sort of person who will look to save money in any way he can and as a result he booked really stupid flight times (in relation to having a 3 year old) because they were cheaper.

Our flight out was at 9pm and due to flight length and transfers we didn't get to our hotel at what would have been almost 3am in U.K. time. Our DS hadn't been able to sleep at all on the flight or transfer which meant by the time he got to bed at the hotel he'd been awake for over 21 hours. He was obviously absolutely exhausted (as was I) and it was a complete nightmare and the first day of the holiday was a complete write off as DS practically slept all day.

Anyway - me and DH agreed that as it had been so difficult and unfair to DS we would always book practical flight times in future whilst DS was young, even if it does cost a bit more.

However, yesterday DH told me he'd booked us a holiday as a surprise and that he'd gotten it really cheap. I knew what that meant and so I asked about flight times and the flight out means we'd have to get DS out of bed at 2.30am and then drag him around an airport for hours and then deal with him on flights and transfers where he probably won't be able to sleep again. This will mean that by the time we get to the hotel DS will only have had 7 hours sleep in the space of about 27 hours, involving a 2.30am wake-up.

DH thought his idea was great because it meant we'd get the whole first day of the holiday, which I pointed out would just be spent with us all, especially DS, catching up on sleep.

Of course it was lovely DH had booked this holiday but he knows I'm annoyed with the flight times especially since he'd previously agreed we always fly hours that weren't disruptive.

When I asked him why he'd got such silly flight times again and why couldn't he have just got a later one for DS's sake, he said it's because the flights he'd booked had saved him about £75. I personally don't think the hassle of a stupidly early flight is worth saving £75 for especially when it's going to have such a horrible effect on DS. Even taking DS out the picture it means I'll only get about 4 hours sleep in the space of 27 and that's just not enough for me.

DH reckons that as he's the one driving to the airport the stupidly early rise and how little sleep we're all going to get shouldn't be an issue as the early flight only really affects him.... Hmm

AIBU to be annoyed?

I'm trying not to show my annoyance and since our initial conversation about the holiday I haven't mentioned the flights because I don't want DH to think I'm not grateful, but inside I feel pissed off.

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Mittens1969 · 21/09/2017 14:56

Oh and if DS is a nightmare due to lack of sleep make sure you make DH deal with him while you have a nap since he booked the flights :)

I'll have to remember this one. :)

ifonly4 · 21/09/2017 15:00

I guess every child is different, but I can remember our daughter waking us up at 2am so we didn't miss our flight, she was that excited. Also, too excited to go back to sleep until late that evening.

If it is a struggle and DH hasn't listened to your concerns or discussed with you before booking another holiday, perhaps you could take the attitude you're going to spend the money he's saved and take yourself off at the airport shopping and then have a glass of something on the flight, leaving DH to look after your DS.

poppym12 · 21/09/2017 15:03

If its a £75 overall saving not pp then I'd be annoyed too (unless your accommodation is free and therefore you'd be having a really cheap holiday?). I used to travel at the cheapest times but even though I can sleep on a plane, I was still knackered for the first day if I'd had to get up at stupid o'clock.
Unfortunately, changing flight times costs almost as much as a cheap flight so that may not be an option -unless he booked directly with Monarch less than 24 hours ago?

UnicornSparkles1 · 21/09/2017 15:07

I'd tell my DH to change the flights or he could go on his own. What a ridiculous time to choose.

BR62Y · 21/09/2017 15:10

£75 is nothing when compared to the total cost of the holiday and spends so I would be annoyed too. If it was £200 or so I might do it but not at that saving. Sometimes the room isn't ready til 3pm either which I don't like if getting there early.

EvilDoctorBallerinaDuckKeidis · 21/09/2017 15:14

Can you stop him booking any more surprise holidays? I'd never let him book a flight again.

guilty100 · 21/09/2017 15:18

It may be cheaper just to book new flights than it is to change existing ones, depending on your destination!

I have been known to do this. What seems like a good idea in front of the computer always turns out to be a terrible idea when you actually have to make the journey. I've learned my lesson now. Grin

PurpleTango · 21/09/2017 15:18

Hope you manage to enjoy your holiday.

Meanwhile there are people from various countries in the world who are dealing with real trauma and have no country, family, livelihood left. My sympathy lies with them...

8isalotoflegsDayvid · 21/09/2017 15:21

Ouch

mirime · 21/09/2017 15:22

@PurpleTango we all know there are people worse off, but if that meant we couldn't complain about anything we might as well have aibu shut down as most of it is insignificant compared to, say, living in a warzone.

Hillingdon · 21/09/2017 15:23

I tend to have a flight leaving the UK between 0800-1000 and then coming back mid to late afternoon. Hate the late flights when you arrive at your hotel after midnight! Such a waste of the first day

The issue with a early flight of course is that say you get to your destination at 1300 - you will have to wait for check in time which could be as late as 1600. I always request a early check in but you cannot demand it because the rooms need turning around. I would say I get into the rooms early 50% of the time.

£75 is a tiny amount to save and perhaps you need to offer to book the holidays. I do for our family and I am really good at it after all these years. Love a bargain but don't want to waste first and last days of holiday unless I can really help it!

Topseyt · 21/09/2017 15:41

That wouldn't bother me to be honest.

We like and plan for early flights to get more of the first day in the resort. Flights around 6, 7 or 8 in the morning if we can for outbound. Some of that has involved leaving home at 3.30am. For return flights we like late morning take-off.

We always did this even when our DDs were babies and toddlers. We would put them down for a couple of hours sleep when we got there, while we just unwound with a drink.

I'd be with your DH here, not for the saving, but because I definitely prefer arriving earlier in the day if possible. If I were him I would be very annoyed at you banging on about the flight time too. We flew at that sort of time a fair bit with children that age. I am not saying that they didn't have their moments, but we just got on with it.

Writerwannabe83 · 21/09/2017 15:43

Sometimes the room isn't ready til 3pm either which I don't like if getting there early.

Oh God, I hadn't even thought of that!!

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PerfumeIsAMessage · 21/09/2017 15:43

Oh give over, Purple.
The OP wanting to change her flight isn't going to save Syria. Hmm

Writerwannabe83 · 21/09/2017 15:46

If I were him I would be very annoyed at you banging on about the flight time too.

I'm annoyed because we'd already said months ago that for future holidays we would book flights at 'normal' times for the sake of DS. He had agreed on that but now he just gone ahead and booked these flight times anyway.

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sonjadog · 21/09/2017 15:47

I would be massively annoyed by this.

EamonnWright · 21/09/2017 15:50

He surprised you with a holiday?

What a Bastard!

Topseyt · 21/09/2017 15:52

To me a normal flight time is early. To my family it was too, and I guess we have carried on that way.

I can't help feeling that you are overthinking it. Just go and enjoy the holiday, or you risk coming across as very ungrateful to your DH, and I am sure you are not ungrateful.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2017 15:53

I don't get it.

Its a pain yes, but there are ways to cope and deal with it. Be imaginative and do things to make it 'normal' and part of bedtime, like wearing pjs, reading bed time stories etc. Kids feed off how you travel and how excited / stressed etc you are.

There is as much chance of your child being tired and falling asleep on the flight at night as there is being wide awake. A flight with a sleeping child is so much better than one which is wide awake. I'd much rather have a sleepy child, even if they are overtired.

We recently had flights that were due to arrive at 10pm local time. This was fine with me tbh. What wasn't so fine was there was a strike at the destination. We were delayed two hours, but we were lucky it wasn't later. Some flights that day to had 6 hour delays.

We were lucky because the check in at our hotel closed at 3am, and we arrived after 1am by the time we found alternative transport from the airport since the train which had originally planned to take, was no longer running. If we had been delayed much longer we would have been stranded with a 3 year old and no hotel until 7am.

THATS when you panic and get angry.

DS coped just fine, as we had a late up the next day, but still had a pretty full day, with an early night. It meant we effectively had an extra day than if we had gone with more sociable flights.

My point is, that later flights really not the end of the world, and even paying extra for flights at a 'reasonable' time is not necessarily going to be stress free or guaranteed to go to plan.

Kids fly far further and change time zones and cope. Its part of travelling.

I have to say, that in my experience, it doesn't matter what time you fly on holiday with young children, the first 24 hours after you arrive anywhere are always about finding your feet and orientating yourself to what to do, where to eat, resting after travelling).

I am most definitely of the opinion of 'Embrace it or don't fly anywhere' and holiday in the UK instead.

Personally, I'd much prefer an unsociable hours flight with a toddler than a 7 or 8 hour car journey.

Come up with solutions to minimise the stress of travelling rather than worrying about the times of flying. (Eg, don't take as bags, don't make a big deal of going on holiday, make sure you know how you are getting to your hotel, pick a hotel for the night before / first night which makes it less painless, adjust your bedtimes slightly for the week before, make less plans for the first day to allow you to chill).

The more you worry about the flight, the more you'll work yourself up into a frenzy about it, which your child will pick up on.

Enjoy your holiday and have a fab time. Oh and my top tip, is to make sure its your DH who is in charge of the toddler regardless of when you fly. Wink

donajimena · 21/09/2017 15:54

My OH came up with a 'great' idea this year. We are off to an event this autumn which carries on late into the evening.
To save loads of money on both a hotel room and a cheaper flight his brainwave was to check out of the room at midday get changed in the very unglamorous courtesy room, party from ten til 2.30am and then head straight to the airportConfused
Yes dear, you can do that whereas I will pay the extra £150 by myself. You can leave the room at midday whereas I'll have a nice siesta, shower and go back to sleep after the event and head to the airport at a reasonable hour. All for £75 quid each he was prepared to put us through considerable discomfort because he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. Its one of his few downsides and we are now both going for the later option.

PurpleTango · 21/09/2017 16:04

@PurpleTango we all know there are people worse off, but if that meant we couldn't complain about anything we might as well have aibu shut down as most of it is insignificant compared to, say, living in a warzone

Hope OP isn't holidaying in the Caribbean... She may be in line for a reality check! Let's face it most parents have had to endure night time flights with their offspring. They cope well... I have done it many times with children of various ages. It's hardly something to gripe about... Its a holiday ffs!

existentialmoment · 21/09/2017 16:16

your just turned 3 year old stayed awake for over 21 hours? I find that hard to believe.

gingerh4ir · 21/09/2017 16:21

it's just one night. I really think you are blowing this out if proportion.

many families cannot afford one, let alone 2 holidays. just get through the first day and enjoy the trip.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 21/09/2017 16:22

meh. enjoy the holiday and don't sweat this issue

nothing like a fun 230am start to drive to Stanstead, then find the car park then get the bus

then queue 2 hours for Ryanair, and 40 for security!

it kicks off the holiday, I swear it Grin

mirime · 21/09/2017 16:22

I've never flown with DS who's 4. I don't like flying and it's not worth the stress.

And DS would stay awake as long as he could. He does not willingly go to sleep, and he gets incredibly grumpy and stroppy if he doesn't get enough. I'm sure everyone else on the plane would love to have a loudly stropping 4 year old around at that time of the morning. He also could never be moved when asleep without waking him, and waking him too early tends to cause a massive strop.

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