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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.

986 replies

TheClaws · 17/09/2017 01:20

My bet is on nothing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3024189-In-the-dim-corner-we-have-Trump-In-the-dictator-corner-we-have-Kim-Or-is-that-mixed-up

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lionheart · 17/09/2017 14:34

DT has just retweeted something and it is not a happy event.

lionheart · 17/09/2017 14:41

... and also the book tour seems to be drawing the crowds.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/09/2017 14:43

he's gone bonkers today.

orlantina · 17/09/2017 14:46

Has he been retweeting bots again?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 17/09/2017 14:47

Wouldn't want to be on duty in the WH today...

Trump just retweeted this story from a month ago. He’s not only seething w murderous rage today, but desperately craving validation. Why?
twitter.com/davidfrum/status/909396381747613697

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 14:49

Kelly will just have left for church. 45 will be .......,unsupervised.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 15:03

Eric Garland @ericgarland
narrator's voice

"These outbursts usually presaged the revelation of damning news stories by a few hours. This was the weirdest yet."

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 15:11

A recent Hill piece.

If diplomacy does not work

pinkingshears · 17/09/2017 15:12

bigly placematting

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 15:23

Has he deleted his tweets? I can't see them on there

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/09/2017 15:27

His tweets are still there, but they are kind of buried in among all sorts of random ridiculous retweets.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:03

Caroline O. @RVAwonk
Sen. Feinstein tells @CNNSotu: Trump Jr public testimony will happen this fall; subpoena for Manafort "likely" if he refuses to testify.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:08

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2017/09/15/trumps-fec-nominee-has-questioned-the-value-of-disclosing-political-donors/

Trump's FEC nominee has questioned the value of disclosing political donors

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:09

McMaster: Trump Open To Reentering Paris Accord To Advance US ‘Prosperity’

talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mcmaster-denies-trump-reversing-position-on-paris-accord?utm_content=bufferd4b3d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:14

I can't remember if this has been posted already (quite possibly by me Blush) so apologies if it's a repeat

www.propublica.org/article/experts-say-the-use-of-private-email-by-trumps-voter-fraud-commission-isnt-legal

Experts Say the Use of Private Email by Trump’s Voter Fraud Commission Isn’t Legal

Instructions have been lacking, says one commissioner — a sharp contrast with similar groups in the past.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:18

Similar apologies for this one too

The fake news machine: inside a town gearing up for 2020

money.cnn.com/interactive/media/the-macedonia-story/?sr=sharebar_twitter

TheNorthWestPawsage · 17/09/2017 16:28

A longish essay but it sets out with depressing clarity just how much damage Trump's presidency can/will do.

How Trump Is Ending the American Era.

For all the visible damage the president has done to the nation’s global standing, things are much worse below the surface.

In one of the worst scenarios, Trump, as a result of his alternating overtures to and belligerence toward China, might bring about a conflict with Xi Jinping, who is consolidating his own power in a way not seen since the days of Mao Zedong. Military conflict between rising and preeminent global powers is hardly anomalous, after all, and the Chinese are no longer in the mood to accept American hegemony. In 1990, when George H. W. Bush confronted Saddam, an isolated dictator, a paralyzed Russia and weak China were powerless to interfere. He had at his disposal the American military at the peak of its post–Cold War strength, and a ready set of allies. The United States has grown used to wars with limited risk against minor and isolated rivals. A conflict with China would be something altogether different.

Trump is, and is likely to be to the end, volatile, truculent, and impulsive. When he does face a crisis, whether or not it is of his own making, he will discover just how weak his hand is, because no one—friends or enemies, the American public or foreign leaders—will take anything that he promises or threatens at face value. At that point we may find another Donald Trump emerging: the Trump who paid $25 million to the victims of Trump University, who rages at The New York Times and then truckles to its reporters. Like most bullies, he can be stared down. But when he folds, American foreign policy will fold with him.

www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/09/how-trump-ending-american-era/140951/

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 16:29

I don't think you have posted the links before, Pain. 'Think' - but even if so, they bear repetition. Smile

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 16:30

Depressing, NorthWest.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:43

It's easy to forget how much is coming under assault when there are so many fires to fight. Thanks northwest, was a painful but worthwhile read.

On a completely separate, less serious note:

All In w/Chris Hayes
All In w/Chris Hayes @allinwithchris
15 Sep
Trump used to send magazine editor photos of his hands to prove they weren't small on.msnbc.com/2xo6wZS #inners #thing1thing2

Trump used to send magazine editor photos of his hands

Grin
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/09/2017 16:45

The Hill @thehill
McMaster after Trump tweet mocking North Korea: People shouldn't laugh at the threat they pose hill.cm/cAyFWLh

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 16:48

That's as close as he'll one to a rebuke, I think.

I doubt the generals are not conscious that 45 has never served.

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 16:48

come

TheNorthWestPawsage · 17/09/2017 16:55

The hand thing...Shock

Bizarre even in Trump's world of uber bizarre-ness!

cozietoesie · 17/09/2017 17:11

I saw Shinzo Abe speaking on TV, the other night. Party political changes or no, he's taking the NK threat very seriously indeed. His eyes were haunted.