To be pissed with c-section shamers?

[LadyTsunade]

where have they all come from?! it seems to be a new trend where celebrities and others are shaming moms that for whatever reason have sections. Kate Hudson started recently claiming having a section was the "laziest thing she has ever done" 😤

They belong in the 'Best Ignored' category along with people who moan about FF and 'Oh my son would always choose an olive over a chocolate button' parents.

Imagine being that dull?

LOL! I had an ELCS. Definitely the easy way. Why would that be a bad thing?! Yeay for the easy way! What's wrong with all these martyrs. Fools!

Well from what I have witnessed it's certainly not the easy way.

My friend had a terrible recovery from her second c-section.

I had a CS for my first - breech and did not want her turned a THIRD time after they tried twice and she turned right back.

I do not think it is lazy at all - even should people choose it for lifestyle rather than medical reasons.

However I do think it will be one of those things that could (COULD) be shown to have consequences in the future:

like the poor diet linked to growth in diabetes, the CS birth may be shown to be linked to the increase in allergies/asthma - there are current studies underway (my sis is working on one)

After the catheter is out (no numbing gel) and the two midwives heaved me out of bed to stand. That moment I will never forget. Not being able to move to feed baby and getting a row for buzzing a midwife to help. Hah easy. Very amusing.

3 cs here! no shame whatsoever....

Sorry I thought the thread was abut it being lazy/easy. I would have given birth anyway I could - another poster said it maybe not on this thread but we are all hoping for healthy live birth's for our children and for us to be there at the end too. Any one who tries to shame for this has obviously never had one. Kate hudson obviously wanting some pr

I don't get the uproar over what Kate wrote. She said it's the laziest thing SHE has done,
not passing judgement on others. What I'd like to know is how these stars don't have a fucked up stomach from having a CS,
Or any overhang. Mine is quite deformed after my EMCS. That was an eye opener and the recovery horrendous. My planned one was much easier to recover from. I've also had two VB.

tbf to Kate Hudson I assume she meant ELCS as oppposed to EMCS. Having said that mine as per a PO was classed as semi elective even though it was medically advised.

a PP not PO!

I've never had a c section. Had 2 vaginal births but certainly wouldn't think having a c section is easier! Post op recovery etc, not fun I bet. As long as the baby arrives safely and the mum is okay that's all that matters! People can be right dicks at times. I guess it depends on what the norm is where you live? I saw on a programme a few years ago that followed the birth and life new babies first year, can't remember what it was called, where a mum was being called a hippy by her friends as she wanted to try a vaginal birth!

What Kate Hudson said was a judgement about herself, not on other women, so there's no need to get defensive.

All my friends who have had both c-sections and vaginal births (I can think of 6 off the top of my head) have all said that if they were to have a third child they would opt for an elective caesarean next time. None of them found the recovery difficult, bar one who got a mild infection.

I don't know how anyone can say that an elective caesarean is harder than a virginal birth. I do appreciate that the recovery for a c-section is harder for more women than a vb, however there are many, many women who have vbs who have dreadful recoveries and lifelong issues as a result of their vb. I could barely walk for longer than 10 minutes for just over a year due to my physically and mentally traumatic vb.

C-sections should be used for emergencies or when the health/life of either mother or baby would be affected by a vb, and I don't think women should be able to opt for a c-section just because they don't fancy doing it the other way.

Also judgements are made both ways. One friend (who'd had two c-sections- one for a breech baby and one because she just wanted a second c-section) told another friend (who had had two vbs) that she was glad she'd had two c-sections because she didn't have "a loose fanny" like the second friend, and that her husband was happy about that. I've heard this kind of ridiculous statement a number of times.

I do think it's a waste of money to allow women to opt for c-sections when they're unnecessary just because they don't like the thought of contractions. No one does. I do think women who opt for a c-section for no particular reason are lazy.

Vaginal birth even!

Blue

Although I didn't feel like I had gone through "labour" & obviously the process of getting baby out of the belly as opposed to the vag required less effort on my part I would actually prefer a VBAC next time (if possible). I had no intervention (bar pessary) with first & only a few stitches & my recovery was much faster. Plus belly was flatter!

I've had a VB and two laparoscopic surgeries. The VB was easier to recover from, even though the surgeries were only keyhole. A c section must be an absolute bitch.

I have two children and had them both by c section.

DS1 I went to the local hospital (live in Cyprus) and tried for a natural birth. Their policy is no pain-relief over than useless pethidine.Most bullying,unsympathetic midwives ever. "If you just relaxed,he'd be here by now,it's your fault" After 32 hours in labour and a failure to progress, I was eventually given an emergency contact section as baby's heart rate dropped.I had to have a general, but I met him 7 hours later and nothing mattered

My second son, I went to a private clinics where due to my size, tilted womb and previous history re:baby'shower distress , said they would support my choice but would recommend a elective section.I agreed!I had a spinal, it was absolutely beautiful experience. Slightly harder recovery as I had bronchitis so stifling a cough was torture

I don't understand the huge focus on The Birth.It is one out of a trillion days of parenting. All I cared about was getting us all through it alive, happy and healthy.

No time for shamers

Also had appendix out & found C Section worse than that even though I was kept in hospital for longer & had morphine with appendix.

It's different for everyone and no two births are the same.
You also get disgusting comments after a vaginal delivery. I cut 3 "friends" out of my life on the spot for making comments about having a "bucket" or similar just because I'd given birth. Obviously this isn't true and anyone half intelligent knows that. Apparently they were "jokes" but I don't know any decent people who would laugh at it so they're out of my life for good and I don't regret it.
Some friends who had sections were up and about really quickly. Others were in pain for weeks and weeks after. It's all different and just an extra stick to beat women with. Fucking ridiculous and pathetic all of it.

This is nothing new my ds is 26 and when he was born unless you had an emergency section or planned for medical reasons you were not only considered too lazy to push but looked down upon because you hadn't laboured.
It then became fashionable for people to want their births to order starting with celebs, then career women etc.
It seems like society's views have come full circle.

Toogood Can I ask how it was a beautiful experience for you?

These comments always interest me regardless of the method of actual birth.

I had an emergency c section to save my DD's life. Afterwards was horrible, but it was worth it for my DD's sake.

What is it with some women and competing on this crap? From breastfeeding to competitive parenting and now how you deliver?

What is it with women judging themselves or other women? from the way we dress, to how we have our babies, no one is as hard on other woman as another woman.

2 emcs here that saved both my dds life. For everyone I know and don't know I'm grateful for untraumatic births and sympathetic for traumatic ones

My fear during pregnancy was that I'd have to have a cs. So much so that I made my thoughts quite clear on the fact I'd have one if it was in dd's interests, or if it was essential for me, but before dd turned I was prepared to tolerate the pain of a breach over recovering from what is major surgery. Hardly something I wanted to avoid because it is lazy!

Clearly it's a stupid opinion to hold, as a straightforward vb is the easiest, but it's not like you can just opt for that. Plus it's not as though the nhs provides elcs for a laugh, you have to need one.

Might get flamed for this but imo when woman judge other woman its in part insecurity about their own choices & the need to validate them.