to be annoyed at vaping round children....

[feckoffpeppapig]

This pisses me off!! Just because this isn't classed as a "real" cigarette AIBU to be pissed off when vaping around my babies. Or in any private places such as restaurants,pubs etc.

Ive been to two weddings where a couple where even vaping in CHURCH!!!
And then my niece was making her 1st holy communion and the lady in front was vaping...

I have seen no clinical evidence to suggest its safe.So in the mean time id wish the minority who do it would piss off.

I think antivapers think that the smoking laws were brought in just because they don't like the smell or look of it, and it's given them a sense of entitlement which they're transferring to vape.

And soon they WILL extend the feeling to all smells, habits and food choices they've taken a random dislike too.

It's a rampant sense of entitlement run amok; "I don't like it, so you should stop it". Vape shaming is a very apt phrase.

vapour

Serfterf, the vapers that like to produce lots and lots of vaper.

Ah. I only vape very occasional, normally to accompany my very rare drinks and prevent me doing anything daft re cigarettes while my inhibitions are lower.

This thread is making me want to get posher kit and vape more conspicuously. Just to annoy any bossy, snotty Hyacinth Bucket types lurking nearby.

My hospital has recently updated the smoking policy - no smoking or vaping on site at all. Their is because we are a healthcare provider and cannot enable people to make choices that are bad for their health. Yes vaping is not as bad as smoking, still has an impact on your health though. Some are really sickly sweet like someone wearing a horrible perfume but stronger.

vapour blush

"Vaper" gave it a lovely mockney swagger

m0therofdragons, what adverse impact does vaping have on your health?

It's a pity because people will feel ashamed vaping if they're told it looks stupid. Would that pp rather we go back to 'cool' smoking?? Because that's the choice. Many of us want the (harmless) nicotine much like others want alcohol.
I don't see anyone vaping in a shop or church I think you're exaggerating for effect op.
I've seen some pretty classy vapers, I hope that increases

Actually, vaping was never supposed to be about nicotine cessation. The chap that invented the first ecigarette wanted a safe alternative to inhaling nicotine after his father died from lung cancer. In other words, smokers could switch to vaping and be life long vapers if they so desire.

The smoking cessation route only really came in to effect as a marketing feature. Save money, gradually reduce your nicotine and quit. Unfortunately, as vaping contains nicotine too, it still requires willpower to use the ecig, drop the nicotine strengths and eventually give up.

At the moment it is up to the owner of a building or company to allow or disallow vaping.

I do agree with other posters, in my opinion you shouldn't vape anywhere where you wouldn't smoke. Also common courtesy, just because vaping is safer than smoking doesn't mean someone wants a cloud of secondhand vape in their face.

There is a very good documentary on horizon regarding vaping, it's safety and passive vaping.

I work as a vape shop manager and vape myself, regardless, I discourage my children from thinking it's a cool thing to do. In the past four years of working in the industry, I've seen vaping give people back their health and my own, however it's still a method of taking in nicotine and should only be for those that already smoke.

feckoff, my vape stick looks like a large pen rather than a cassette. Am I still chavvy?

Yes, but don't worry because you look less chavvy than a smoker.

You may well be an Oxford grad but you wouldn't give off that vibe vaping.

I'm not medically trained but it was banned at the request of the respiratory team and cardiology - the people who deal with patients suffering from smoking related diseases everyday felt there was enough evidence to show the negative impact. I'm sure they're all wrong though

m0therofdragons
You may well be an Oxford grad but you wouldn't give off that vibe vaping.

I'd rather give off a 'chav vibe' than that of a melodramatic, precious, judgemental twat.

It's in the public narrative that it's an alternative to smoking though so anyone who hates smokers is also going to look down on vapers.

You may well be an Oxford grad but you wouldn't give off that vibe vaping

I think having the qualification is slightly more important than whether some slightly bizarre cul de sac snob thinks you like as though you have said qualifications

I'm a vaper, think it's very unlikely that it causes harm to bystanders (except maybe if it's one of those people with an immense perfumed cloud, in which case I imagine it might provoke coughing/headaches the way I cough and get headaches when someone uses air freshener or spray deodorant near me - I once sat in a friend's living room feeling iller and iller, headache, nausea, etc. - turned out they had one of those automatic air fresheners silently poisoning the air in sweet-smelling bursts every ten minutes), and find it less objectionable to be around another person vaping an ordinary vape i.e. not sub-ohming than to be around someone with strong perfume. I can sit at the next table to a vaper (while not vaping myself) and be unable to smell their vape, even while I can smell their fabric conditioner.

However.

It's not water vapour or steam. It's propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerin (both used as, among other things, food additives), with nicotine and flavourings. If there are health concerns, it's from inhaling a lot of it every day. The dose makes the poison, innit.

I think the main issue here is that there are clearly occasions where it is not appropriate to engage in any kind of visible "habit". The OP is talking about people vaping in church at weddings - you wouldn't eat, drink, paint your nails, read a book, listen to an iPod or anything else during a wedding service so why is vaping acceptable? My OH was a heavy smoker so I understand the compulsion very well, but surely you can wait until the end of the service and vape at an appropriate time where you aren't making a fucking exhibition of yourself?

Look^ as though, etc

Vapour can and does set off smoke alarms. Very unlikely from the small pens but likely from sub ohming. This is because smoke alarms don't just detect smoke, they also detect particles in the air and ejuice containing VG will set them off from VG particles on the sensor. My work has heat alarms for this reason.

the people who deal with patients suffering from smoking related diseases everyday felt there was enough evidence to show the negative impact. I'm sure they're all wrong though

But that's about smoking. And vaping is not smoking. By any stretch. How often does this need to be repeated for it to actually sink in? I may not look like an Oxford grad with my chavvy vape stick. There's a few on here that don't look like Oxford grads either due to a quite evident lack of comprehension.

I've wandered around Cambridge and Cambridge college and seen plenty of the students vaping BTW

*colleges

'Cloud Chasers' are a type of vaper who enjoys producing large dense clouds of vapour. You cannot do this with a small one type mod.

You need a powerful mod that is capable of running at at least 100w. You would also need a sizable tank to go with this.

Basically, more powerful mod, bigger tank/coil = more vapour production.

Addley, I've quite happily and freely vaped my way round Queens College Oxford.

Yes apparently a LOT of them because I stopped to debate the smoke alarm point with DS half an hour ago and he confirmed that there have been fire evacuation incidents at his Cambridge college caused (apparently) by lots of people vaping at once.

OTOH smoking is fairly stigmatised in his age and peer group.