Dd 14, back to school and new rule females pupils are not to pull up tights in front of male teachers

[catnoir]

Dd 14 had her first assembly of the year this morning, and head mistress / principle has a list of new rules, one including female students are banned from pulling up/ adjusting their 60 denier tights in front of male teachers as she feels this is inappropriate and it must be done in private in bathrooms. Surely this is crazy?

Does she think all the male teachers are paedophiles?

And once again women and girls are responsible for the supposed male gaze! Were I a girl at this school I would be sorely tempted to turn up in trousers or wearing said tights on my head!

Surely tights are not underwear, if so then are socks?
Again should be a blanket policy not a male teacher related - that bit is just wrong. Plus assume you can't see through them and most girls would be too bodily conscious to dream of going much higher than the knee!

Please, please, tell me this is a wind up!! I'm fuming. Ban tights, ban male teachers or let's not educate our Daughters!! Who has complained about 14 yr olds hitching their tights ? Sad, sad sad

This is why my mum always told me to wear my knickers on top of my tights!

I'd tell a Year 3 off for doing this in public, KS3 it's not acceptable behaviour in public. If it's an all girls school, I can see that they may have said not in front of males as a concession to those who feel my version is too strict. Really though, it should just be considered inappropriate whomever it's in front of.

Just mentioned this to my 14 year old dd who wears tights/skirt to school.
She said that this rule would be unworkable and bets that no male teacher would want to be enforce this because noticing it happening could be twisted into perving.
Boys also have to adjust their trousers sometimes. Is there a rule for boys?
What does the teacher suggest girls do? Leave the classroom to adjust? Ask male teacher to leave room while she adjusts?

Why is it up to the girls to change? Ban male teachers (cos they are all perverts according to head) or ban skirts/tights. Do lesbian teachers have to declare their sexual preference?

When i was a teen (girls school), hitching up your over the knee socks in such a way to show lots of thigh in front of teachers you fancied was definitely a thing. We were constantly told to pack it in too.

Primary schools are full of boys showing bum crack because their trousers don't fit to their body properly. I've never seen teachers telling them to hide it- is this because primary school teachers are predominantly female?
I've also seen secondary school boys having to adjust belt/trousers to protect their modesty. They are doing it because manufacturers assume that children come in uniform sizes where as anyone who's seen a 30 child class will know that the range is massive.

I do wonder where all these schools are

It must happen because there are teachers on the thread saying it does

But ive just checked with my children and they have never seen it (i was at school too many years ago for my experience to count)

So it either rarely if ever happens at their school ...or they are walking round in a daze

To be fair the latter is possibly more feasible

A girl has only got to say 'i was pulling up my tights and Mr Bloggs was looking at me.....' even if he wasn't looking anywhere near her he will get hauled up, possibly suspended and his career will be in tatters...even if found completely innocent.. The Head is protecting the male teachers and they certainly need it these days.

I take it the head knows there are no lesbian or bisexual teachers?

A girl has only got to say 'i was pulling up my tights and Mr Bloggs was looking at me.....' even if he wasn't looking anywhere near her he will get hauled up, possibly suspended and his career will be in tatters...

I'm fairly sure no teacher has ever been suspended for looking at a child in class whatever they are doing.

A girl has only got to say 'i was pulling up my tights and Mr Bloggs was looking at me.....' even if he wasn't looking anywhere near her he will get hauled up, possibly suspended and his career will be in tatters...even if found completely innocent.. The Head is protecting the male teachers and they certainly need it these days.

That's not how it works but well done for spreading fear and misinformation.

i'd seek clarification on how many times she feels it is appropriate to interrupt a lesson to attend the toilet to adjust the tights before her effort in lessons is called into question/ it becomes appropriate for the tights to fall down infront of the male teachers.

some people, man!

How awkward for the male staff

Although I agree with pulling tights up in private. I think this is giving out the wrong message about male teachers and probably men in general stating not to do so in front of male teachers. It's hardly attractive watching someone pull up their tights!

Given the number of unfounded allegations made against male teachers by young girls this seems a reasonable step to take. Some male teachers are absolutely ruined by these false allegations. Just imagine a make teacher witnessing the pulling up of tights, just needs some mischievous girl to accuse him of staring or goodness knows what else.. Rule should be applied to pulling up action being made in front of anyone. A school is a workplace for adults, children should respect that and themselves by behaving decently.

Mmm....I'd check 100% that the Head specified male staff.
Apparently I once told the kids in my class that parents don't come to parents' evening because they sit around drinking. I didn't. I asked students to let me know if their parents weren't coming to Parents' Evening so I'd know I'd have some gaps in the back-to-back appointments to run off and grab a drink.
Perhaps last term a couple of girls were deliberately raising their skirts to adjust their tights, to deliberately cause embarrassment? At a previous school where I worked, Yr 10 girls would go out of their way to try to embarrass male staff, 'Can you see my bra through my shirt, Sir?' Giggle giggle. Showing suggestive photos to staff and even (badly) photo-shopping a male teacher's head onto a photo of a naked man and showing him.
A few rotten apples can result in seemingly ridiculous rules.

Given the number of unfounded allegations made against male teachers by young girls

How many would that be?

Sounds like a lot

Plus assume you can't see through them and most girls would be too bodily conscious to dream of going much higher than the knee!

They aren't

They are flashing their knickers

I totally agree similsme and manicmij.....as i said earlier any hint that a male teacher might have 'looked' at a girl adjusting tights and a career can be blighted however unfounded. And Yes DeleteorDecay that IS the way it works. I have worked in schools for 40 years, co ed as well as girls'schools, i am married to a teacher and two of my children are teachers.

mrstiggy

So you will know the numbers of unfounded accusations

Honestly curious, ive had a little google but cant see anything relevant

One of our local secondary schools has banned skirts. It caused outrage 😂

22% of teachers surveyed have been the target of false allegation according to a poll by the Adsociation of Teachers and lecturers in 2015.

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