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AIBU to stop dropping our kids at their dad's now he's cut maintenance so much I can't afford to?

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ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 00:21

We've been separated five years and divorced for three years. My ex-husband had a high paying job at an investment bank in the City, I gave up my career to travel and live round the world with his. The terms of our divorce settlement just three years ago were that he paid child maintenance for our three young children til they finish education and spousal maintenance for me for life (my ex agreed to this without any discussion or argument at all and a Judge signed it off). This past year my ex has managed to orchestrate such that he now pays just 36% of what he agreed in our settlement. So our income has been cut by £2400. He moved out of London to the Shires be with his new wife and her three children. Up until now, because he paid a good level of maintenance and I have not worked we have taken it in turns to pickup/ drop off the children at each other's houses during holidays (term time his mum or new wife collects the children from school on a Friday and drops back Mondays). So I have made the three hour round trip in our car. About six times a year each. Now I have no car because it failed to pass its MOT and I can't afford to fix it or run it. I can't afford the train fare to do the drop off to his house, this August it would have been £120 alone. I have said I'm really sorry but I can't pay £60+ to get the children there and me back to London each time. The children's fares are £6 total, it's mine that's the problem at £45+. I genuinely can't afford it but I also now feel that me taking the kids was a perk of the reasonable maintenance (he kept more than half his salary for himself with no dependents). He has no mortgage and his wife earns £80k. I have offered to take the children to St Pancras where his wife commutes into at any time she says and to pay the £6 for their fares (she said why should she pay and I agree. She's offered money before when the cuts impacted the kids after school clubs but I declined because it's not fair she should pay, it's their dad's responsibility not hers, she has three children of her own). But now even after I got over the money barrier and said I'd pay £6 she's saying she won't meet me, it's my responsibility to get them to Bedford. AIBU not to share the journeys now? I can't afford it so basically it would take money from food, he moved away and I'm desperately looking for a job and so will at some point be working. I'm a single mum on my own, no partner, with three young kids - 9, 11 and 13. What do other people do? AIBU?

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DrMadelineMaxwell · 27/08/2017 00:24

I'd be tempted to say that because he chose to move away the onus is on him to arrange the transport as you can't afford it.

IrritatedUser1960 · 27/08/2017 00:25

Let the fucker pick them up and drop them off.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 27/08/2017 00:29

If he wants to see them he will collect them. If he's not bothered about seeing them then in the long run it's better for them that he drops out of their life sooner rather than later.

cherryontopp · 27/08/2017 00:30

He moved away, he reduced the payments so he should get his children.

Allthewaves · 27/08/2017 00:32

How is he paying less if you had a legal settlement

scrabbler3 · 27/08/2017 00:40

Has he gone back to court to alter the settlement? He can't just decide to do so.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/08/2017 00:43

He can pick and drop them off, tell him due to his cutting maintanance you cannot afford to. He also moved out of area, cheeky fecker.

user1500161471 · 27/08/2017 00:43

I absolutely despise how everyone is so black and white with this for absolutely no consideration for the kids. There are articles to suggest that it is better for the kids to have both parents pick up and drop off as it helps to present the united front and is a clear indication that it's okay to go to the other parents.

Why will the wife not take the kids from the train station? Would there be any way of discussing this with their father and highlighting that it would be a compromised option as otherwise you'd be struggling? Could you do it every other time from what you're doing just now? For what it's worth, I think you're doing well to consider it rather than making a rash decision.

IggyAce · 27/08/2017 00:45

I too am wondering how he has managed to alter Maintenance if it was part of a legal settlement.
Since he moved away and he's reduced payments I feel it's upto him to collect the kids.

BeepBeepMOVE · 27/08/2017 00:53

Your children have all been school age for the last 5 years and you haven't worked at all?

Unless he has been fired how has he changed the legally agreed maintenance?

fireworksabigbag · 27/08/2017 01:20

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converseandjeans · 27/08/2017 01:23

Sounds like you get about £1200 a month maintenance on top of benefits. That's the same as my monthly salary working. It's not a bad amount to get. Agreed it's not keeping you in the lifestyle you had previously, but things change. OH should come and collect kids - equally you should step up and find work. Could you find a compromise whereby he buys the train ticket online or something and you do the dropping off? What are your long-term plans for when maintenance stops?

Pallisers · 27/08/2017 01:24

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blameitonthebipolar · 27/08/2017 01:28

Bit harsh firework Hmm you don't know why op doesn't work, there's always one isn't there?

Op I would definitely try and get your agreement looked at and also ask your exdh why he has reduced the payments.
Has he given you any explanation? Wondering if the £2400 reduction is over the year also...

GreenTulips · 27/08/2017 01:29

How is he paying less? Can you go back to court to decide? What's his solution?

lilydaisyrose · 27/08/2017 01:39

So if your income.has reduced by £2,400 and you are now getting 36% of the original total, he is still paying you £1,350 p/m?

Atenco · 27/08/2017 01:42

Whao, fireworks, I personally haven't a clue where that came from but I'm sure it is nothing to do with the OP.

ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 01:44

Yes it was reduced through Family Court. The stories I could tell. But I don't want that to influence your opinions on this, it's just AIBU to stop taking the kids to Bedford to him in the holidays now he's drastically reduced our income and it would mean us (as in our children, I haven't had clothes or my hair done in a year) going without. And I'm literally talking food. Not Term time, that's sorted. This is taking it in turns during holiday time. I can understand if I had moved away from him, the cost would be unreasonable on him but he chose to move to Bedford, what if he had moved to Edinburgh?

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ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 01:45

Yes.

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ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 01:45

Are you my ex husband? Or his new wife?

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HCantThinkOfAUsername · 27/08/2017 01:50

He should do pick up etc as he moved away

ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 01:53

I said in the post I am looking for a job, I realise that I need to do that now. I had a great career, my standard of living was very good before I met him. Then we moved to NY with my ex husband's job and when we came back I was pregnant and couldn't get a job, so that was my career over. We jointly decided I would be the main carer for our children. I moved to India eight months pregnant and with a 1 year old and 4 year old for his job. I started a business when my youngest was 1 and when it was just taking off he walked out. We made good money on our family home so we split 64/ 36, I bought a house out of the settlement but we had no savings as had just done a loft conversion. So with three kids under 7 and my work history and sacrifices, bearing in mind he earned six figures, the deal was maintenance. He's basically ripped up the deal we only made three years ago.

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HistoriaTrixie · 27/08/2017 01:55

He moved away, his responsibility for the extra transportation needed, not yours.

ClaireMumtoThree · 27/08/2017 01:55

Sorry I replied to each but it's our it all at the bottom...

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BoysofMelody · 27/08/2017 01:55

op is there any reason why you can't work?

If not, a strategy of a lifetime living off the income off someone you were married to forty odd years ago is fairly perilous and has bitten you on the bum now. Something like redundancy, burnout or illness or a host of other far from unlikely events over which you have no control will leave you vulnerable.