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"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." Trump threads continued [title edited by MNHQ]

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lionheart · 18/08/2017 23:43

I'm paying attention.

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Roussette · 23/08/2017 06:53

George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 3h3 hours ago
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Trump in Phoenix: "They are trying to take away our history and our heritage." We all know the code he's speaking. Disgraceful.

Roussette · 23/08/2017 07:05

It couldn't be spelt out more clearly what we are facing. And this from Clapper former Director of Nat.Intel.

edition.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/james-clapper-trump-phoenix-rally-don-lemon-cnntv/index.html?sr=twCNN082317james-clapper-trump-phoenix-rally-don-lemon-cnntv0110AMVODtop0

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 23/08/2017 07:14

Watching the speech now. Just disturbing.

Some of the panel on CNN are openly laughing at the CNN comments.

I suppose you could say the speech was 'classic' Trump. Same old, same old.

Horrible, disturbing but nothing new.

Roussette · 23/08/2017 07:18

And there was an ad on Craigslist $50 for 3 hours to be at the Rally

Roussette · 23/08/2017 07:21

And he tweets there were 15,000 there. Someone has loaded footage up - not before the rally, not after the rally - but whilst Trump is speaking and reckons there was 3-4,000 maximum and how many of those were paid? It looks pretty empty from the footage.

That's heartening

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 07:43

Eric Garland
Eric Garland @ericgarland

Guys. So, today, dude paid to compile The Dossier on Trump met Senate Intel. Closed session.

Quick! Stage a rally!

Coincidence?

OuaisMaisBon · 23/08/2017 07:47

Roussette, I saw that his supporters posted a picture of something else completely claiming it showed massive numbers of supporters at his rally last night, that was immediately debunked on Twitter. I will try to find the photos.
In the meantime, I came on here to share with you Dan Rather's take on last night. A President of the USA gaslighting the whole of the USA - a phenomenon no-one would have imagined before the advent of Trump. Bigly sad!

"Blame the press. Blame President Obama. Insist down is up and up is down. Create an alternate reality. Gaslight. Gaslight. Gaslight. Misquote yourself. Leave out the words that outraged a majority of a nation.

The speech that President Trump gave tonight was not the teleprompter-confined President of last night's speech on Afghanistan. He was the martyr to an unfair witch hunt. His words after Charlottesville were in reality healing - if the press would just tell the truth. He was misquoted and taken out of context. He has drawn the battle lines to divide a nation between his "us" and the "them" of the others. And he basks in the swagger.

Nevermind all the critics outside of the press, the CEOs, the GOP officials who have questioned his mental stability, and the global condemnation.

But why does he attack the press, as "bad people" who "don't like our country?" "Sick people?" Why does he say "the only people giving a platform to these hate groups is the media and the fake news?" CNN, the New York Times, and the Washington Post is the enemy. Fox News and Sean Hannity are the good guys.

This bombast is because the press is a check on power. The press is performing its constitutional responsibilities. The investigative reporting has drawn blood.

The forces of political gravity that have tethered his agenda to reality went unstated. So he attacks sanctuary cities. He touts a wall that is apparently being built, and over which he is willing to apparently shut down the government. He hinted at a pardon for the controversial Sheriff Joe Arpaio. "Sheriff Joe can feel good."

He keeps fighting the battle over healthcare, unable to let go of a stinging defeat. Over and over he said "one vote away..." fully conscious that one of those key votes that doomed his healthcare effort was the senior senator from Arizona, John McCain. "I won't mention any names. Very presidential." And then he attacked the junior senator from Arizona, Republican and Trump critic Jeff Flake, without mentioning his name either. But the tenor was clear. Mr. Trump was ready to attack any GOP senator who has the temerity to go against him.

This was Trump as candidate, uncaged, unscripted, unabashed, and frankly unhinged. The crowd got to chant "lock her up" to the name of Hillary Clinton and cheer a president who claims that he has accomplished more than any president at this point in a term (nevermind reality). He was playing to the home crowd. But there is a much bigger world out there, no matter the picture Mr. Trump may wish to paint."

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 07:47

Has he said he'd definitely pardon sheriff arpeio?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 07:48

Ah, that answers that ouasis!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 07:53

Saba Hamedy
Saba Hamedy @saba_h
Views from the roof of the parking lot across from Phoenix convention center. People packed on every floor. #trumprally protest

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Lweji · 23/08/2017 07:54

Mr Trump concluded: "If we have to close down government, we are building that wall."

Not sure that will be particularly popular.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 07:56

Kurt Eichenwald
Kurt Eichenwald @kurteichenwald
Trump told america TV cameras were being shut off so country wouldn't hear what he had to say. I know this because I saw it on TV.

Insane.

OuaisMaisBon · 23/08/2017 08:01

This is proof (were any needed) of Trump supporters' fake news.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 08:05

AP West Region @APWestRegion
Day of calm protest at Trump rally turns unruly as police fire pepper spray after someone threw objects at officers

apnews.com/72b164259c124182842a51c17f8bae93/Protests-turn-unruly-after-Trump's-Phoenix-speech

Lweji · 23/08/2017 08:05

Supporters or paid propaganda people?

Roussette · 23/08/2017 08:12

Thanks Ouais. Dan Rather always speaks sense.

Those fake pics of the crowds are hilarious! Apparently he's very rattled at the turnout and we know what he does when he's rattled - lie lie lie

orlantina · 23/08/2017 08:26

If he wants to bring a country together again, what's the best way NOT to do that?

orlantina · 23/08/2017 08:29

His not so subtle call again

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 27m27 minutes ago
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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Fekko · 23/08/2017 08:30

I've never seen such lying since my sister dig up dads rose bush in the front garden and swore black was white that it wasn't her.
She had the spade.
She was covered in mud.
The next door neighbour saw her.
I saw her.

I think that mindset is that if they say it loud and often enough (throw in a few outraged tears) people will believe them (or just give up and say 'ok Timmy, I'm sure you're right').

orlantina · 23/08/2017 08:30

OMG

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
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Not only does the media give a platform to hate groups, but the media turns a blind eye to the gang violence on our streets!

That is a clear example of whataboutery!

Roussette · 23/08/2017 08:31

He's like a child. He always tweets that when he's rattled.

Sorry Donnie, don't think it's working any more

OuaisMaisBon · 23/08/2017 08:31

This is an absolute disgrace. I am even more outraged than I was before, if that's possible.

Kate‏ @kateduganx 3h3 hours ago

I'm sitting in my car in tears. I left 20 minutes ago. The protestors were not rioting. They do not need tear gas and bullets #PhoenixRally

Stangle's Kid‏ @lisasaurstomp 2h2 hours ago

Ok so now that I'm home and de-gassed, I'll share what I personally witnessed at the #phoenixrally tonight

deray mckesson‏Verified account @deray 3h3 hours ago

I am reminded that the police didn't treat the white supremacists in #Charlottesville the way they're treating the #PhoenixRally protestors.

badbadhusky · 23/08/2017 08:32

Thank you so much to our night shift posters providing an overnight perspective on the rally. (MsHoolies - you are in the UK, I think. Hope you didn't have horrendous insomnia.)

Clappers comments about Trumps ready access to the nukes on that CNN clip were unsettling, particularly from one who would know.

What's it going to take for action to be taken? We have a rabid dog loose at a barbecue. Do we really have to wait for it to maul a child to death before someone contains it?

Roussette · 23/08/2017 08:32

And what's he doing tweeting at 3.30am???!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 08:34

Manu Raju
Manu Raju @mkraju
Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson met for 10 hours with Judiciary staff, per @tomlobianco @tedbarrettcnn