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"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." Trump threads continued [title edited by MNHQ]

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lionheart · 18/08/2017 23:43

I'm paying attention.

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badbadhusky · 23/08/2017 08:35

Not only does the media give a platform to hate groups, but the media turns a blind eye to the gang violence on our streets!

Well, that statement is true in as much as the media is freely broadcasting Trump's hate speech...

badbadhusky · 23/08/2017 08:37

^And what's he doing tweeting at 3.30am???!^

Lots of men that age get up in the night to pee (prostate trouble).

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 08:40

Andrew Kimmel @andrewkimmel_
Police gave no order for dispersal. There is a helicopter hovering overhead now giving dispersal order, approx 20 min after firing.

orlantina · 23/08/2017 08:45

Can you open carry in Arizona?
I wonder if the protestors should have open carried assault rifles.....

Anniegetyourgun · 23/08/2017 08:45

That's a point: isn't Hillary supposed to be in jail right about now? Seems that's one campaign promise he's slacking on, notwithstanding his great progress on all the others Hmm

I have no sympathy to spare for Mr McConnell, btw. He pulled all the usual tricks to get Trump into the top spot for his own purposes, You can't climb into bed with the Devil and then complain because there's a pitchfork jabbing you in the back. It goes with the territory.

PerkingFaintly · 23/08/2017 08:49

Apropos of nothing at all, this made me smile today:
How stone poses became a surreal hobby
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41001237

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 08:57

orlantina

Simon Romero @viaSimonRomero
Members of the John Brown Gun Club. They told me they're in Phoenix to protect protesters from white nationalists

Hend Amry @LibyaLiberty
Maybe this is what it will take to change open carry laws. :/

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Fekko · 23/08/2017 09:00

That's exactly what I don't want to see on the streets here (uk). I hate the idea of everyone and his/her granny having access to enough arms to wipe out a small country.

InigoTaran · 23/08/2017 09:07

Wow this is scathing " a total eclipse of the facts"!

Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) tweeted at 4:36 am on Wed, Aug 23, 2017:
Wow. Don Lemon doesn't hold back. t.co/wCBQoat74B
(twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/900200118225428486?s=02)

InigoTaran · 23/08/2017 09:08

Does anyone know where we can see the Trump rally?

Carolinesbeanies · 23/08/2017 09:09

If ever something pops up, that demonstrates just how utterly determined the msm frenzy is, this is it.

Golondrina · 23/08/2017 09:15

Why is he having rallies? Has any other serving president held rallies only months after being elected?

MsHooliesCardigan · 23/08/2017 09:16

husky I am in the U.K. DH is away for a week so I had the TV on to help me sleep and just happened to wake up because I needed a pee just as Donnie was in full deranged dictator mode.
I have got over my self pity and am back in full Resistance mindset.
I think it was me in the early days who said that this is a marathon, not a sprint. I have run a few marathons and I think yesterday was me hitting 'the wall' which means that the only way is up. Have a good day everyone x

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 09:16

CANt bring myself to watch but I think you can see it here

m.youtube.com/watch?v=yBR6d4U0XV8

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 09:20

golodrina it is not at all normal that he's had 8 rallies in the less than 8 months since his inauguration. No other president had announced to run again this early on, let alone campaign for it.

OuaisMaisBon · 23/08/2017 09:26

Unfortunately, Trump has changed everyone's definition of "normal", to the extent that it is now normal for the Head of State to spread lies.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 09:29

mshoolies gosh, it must have felt like a nightmare.

Cake fuel for the marathon

InigoTaran · 23/08/2017 09:46

James Clapper says he's unhinged and not fit for office

m.youtube.com/watch?v=W40_4SkdZ48

borntobequiet · 23/08/2017 10:04

The tactics of bullies down the ages. Goad your victim into any response, however mild, and then claim it's all their fault, they are as bad as you or worse. Usually to be seen in dictatorships. Now in the USA. Soon to be here, sadly...if not already.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 10:12

Some other things that are happening:

Michael Cohen
Michael Cohen @speechboy71
Mitch McConnell is leaking to the New York Times that basically Donald Trump needs to go. That is a BFD
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UN cyberwarfare negotiations collapsed in June, it emerges

amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/un-cyberwarfare-negotiations-collapsed-in-june-it-emerges
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No U.S.-Russia cyber unit without Trump notifying Congress, bill says

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1B3040
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The Hill
The Hill @thehill
Trump Justice Dept drops request for identifying info of visitors to anti-Trump website
thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/347559-doj-drops-request-for-visitor-ip-addresses-related-to-trump-resistance?amp
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The Associated Press
The Associated Press @AP
North Korea's state media reveal photos showing designs for one and possibly two new missiles, @EricTalmadge writes.
www.apnews.com/2c7387e3138d4fa9b5a2b560a58a2c40?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
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POLITICO
POLITICO @politico
It was not clear why the White House would announce the trip but keep details of Kushner’s departure under wraps

www.politico.com/story/2017/08/22/kushner-in-middle-east-for-peace-talks-241895
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China warns US to 'correct its mistake' after new sanctions

thehill.com/policy/international/347504-china-warns-us-to-correct-its-mistake-after-new-sanctions?amp
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CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Melania Trump thanks Chelsea Clinton for defending Barron
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/23/politics/melania-trump-chelsea-clinton-tweet/index.html
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Kyle Griffin
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
FT: Sinclair’s chairman is "eyeing a collaboration" with Steve Bannon.
amp.ft.com/content/1d2b3edc-8696-11e7-8bb1-5ba57d47eff7

Fernand R. Amandi @AmandiOnAir
Expect Bannon to apply the Robert Mercer funded Cambridge Analytica psychological research findings that won '16 into @WeAreSinclair content

Lweji · 23/08/2017 10:18

No other president had announced to run again this early on, let alone campaign for it.

Mostly because it's a given and way too early.
If you spend your time campaigning instead of governing, you won't get re-elected.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 10:23

borntobe it is eyebrows opening to see how quickly it can be eroded

Brian Klaas
Brian Klaas @brianklaas

  1. Anti-media speeches like Trump's in Arizona are familiar to anyone who studies how creeping authoritarianism rises & democracy erodes.
  2. In dictatorships, you just jail reporters. In eroding democracies, you can't break the press. So, you bend public opinion against them.
  3. The press is the independent way to question the gov't & expose the truth when Trump lies. Free press is a cornerstone of all democracies
It can happen here.

Trump is mimicking the playbook used in other countries sliding away from democracy by viciously demonizing the press

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/08/2017 10:31

lweji

instead of governing

This is the crux of the problem really. He has no ability nor interest in governing, only in receiving unfettered adulation. He had an enemy during the campaign then promptly lost that, ironically when he won, although he's continued to rail against Hillary and Obama. He's been fighting anyone he can because it's all he knows how to do and it doesn't matter if it's the GOP, media etc, he has any other mode and needs to find windmills to tilt at. Hence the starting to campaign now for 2020.

PerkingFaintly · 23/08/2017 11:04

From one of Pain's links, thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/347559-doj-drops-request-for-visitor-ip-addresses-related-to-trump-resistance?amp :

Privacy and civil liberties advocates were up in arms last week when the web hosting company DreamHost publicized a July 12 search warrant for information related to disruptj20.org, which was used to organize protests on Inauguration Day.

DreamHost said complying with the request would amount to handing over roughly 1.3 million visitor IP addresses and other information about visitors to the site.
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The modified attachment to the search warrant also states that information requested from DreamHost should be limited to all records and information from between July 1, 2016, and Jan. 20, 2017. This information does not include content of unpublished draft publications for the website or records that constitute HTTP request and error logs that would reveal the IP addresses.

The brief also specifies that the information is being requested in connection with the ongoing investigation into the rioting that occurred on Inauguration Day. More than 200 people have been indicted on rioting charges related to the protests.
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"The government has now withdrawn entirely its unlawful and highly problematic request for any data relating to the visitors of the website and any unpublished data subject to the Privacy Protection Act," said Raymond Aghaian, the DreamHost counsel. "This is a tremendous win for DreamHost, its users and the public. There remains, unfortunately, other privacy and First and Fourth Amendment issues with the search warrant."

CaveMum · 23/08/2017 11:56

For some light relief, this image from Facebook made me chuckle!

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