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AIBU?

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Are you a feminist?

999 replies

NoLoveofMine · 06/08/2017 02:03

Yes or no...

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Betsyboo87 · 06/08/2017 02:24

No I don't think I am but happy to be corrected. It might just be that I don't get it.

Oh and I can't stand Emma Watson. Watched The Circle tonight, she grated on me the entire time and does in rl too.

inkzooka · 06/08/2017 02:25

Who has bright blue hair here?

Fuck, this is literally calling me out. I have bright blue hair I'm trying to get out to dye it red.

RedBullBlood · 06/08/2017 02:25

Well, yes. You are a regular poster (including on the feminist board) aren't you?

NoLoveofMine · 06/08/2017 02:25

Yes I am.

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echt · 06/08/2017 02:27

Yes I am.

SplatController · 06/08/2017 02:27

@AssassinatedBeauty

"Eyore" because you know that whatever results the OP gets, modern feminism has killed itself?

hesterton · 06/08/2017 02:28

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StatelessPrincess · 06/08/2017 02:31

No, mainly because I'm a practising Muslim and have been told so many times by lots of women that I can't be both. Others disagree but they seem to be a minority. I find feminism interesting though and recently began to learn a lot more about it.

reuset · 06/08/2017 02:31

Yes, I hope so.

AssassinatedBeauty · 06/08/2017 02:32

@SplatController no, that's not the reason why.

bambambini · 06/08/2017 02:34

I'd have said yes a year or so ago as in feminist lite but after seeing how different factions seem to hate and disagree with each other - I'd say no these days. I don't want to be a part of what i see. I also hate the word "patriarchy". So no, i no longer call myself a feminist.

tangledup123 · 06/08/2017 02:38

No. I believe in equal rights for women - and for everyone in society. And I guess I used to think I was a feminist in the 'girl power' sense. But having read many of the feminism threads on here I certainly could never label myself a 'feminist' nowadays. I find some of the more radical views disgusting and intolerant and I wouldn't want to associate myself with those type of opinions.

Mxyzptlk · 06/08/2017 02:38

Unless you view yourself and any females you know as 2nd class citizens I can't see why you wouldn't class yourself as a feminist

Me too.

Don't know what a terf is, or any other definitions of feminist.

NoLoveofMine · 06/08/2017 02:40

Interesting posts. I suppose I should also have asked do you think misogyny is a problem in society?

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AssassinatedBeauty · 06/08/2017 02:46

Have you seen the Fawcett Society survey that showed that 67% of people support equality, but only 7% describe themselves as a feminist? (www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/2016/01/we-are-a-nation-of-hidden-feminists/)

bambambini · 06/08/2017 02:47

Ah TERF. Majority of feminists these days would put males over fellow women and girls and scream hatred at any female who is gender critical. I feel that seems to represent the majority feminist opinion- so i want no part of that thinking.

SplatController · 06/08/2017 02:49

@Painfulpain

I'll answer because I've a busy out of office day today so can't enter into a bunfight with frequent replies. Also, with @inkzooka posting, no one will call me a troll (or make PA (s)he comments).

Feminism has nearly achieved all of its aims. Of course there are some tiny inequalities but they take time to get rid of. You can't legislate against tiny, accidental infringements on what militant feminists see as major transgressions. The war has been won and, what's more, boys need help. As someone with a professional interest in the area, I worry about boys academic and professional achievement. Girls are flourishing - they're out-achieving boys / men).

As a movement achieves its starting aims or objectives, it focuses on the minutia and becomes more radical. Those left are more radical. Radical anything is bad.

As well as being an ardent feminist, I was a strong and vocal advocate of gay rights in the 70s and 80s (I'm straight but gay older brother). Gays became accepted for who they are. Of course there's the odd imbecile who thinks "poofters are bad, innit" but the general population has been reached. Gay pride isn't about reaching out to people. It's about taking drugs and having a party. From personal experience, most gay people agree that a large movement protecting their rights isn't needed. They have laws and, besides which, it is a tiny number of bigoted individuals who have issues, not society as a whole.

When I was a marching feminist, I wanted equality of opportunity. Nothing more, nothing less. Unlike modern feminism, things like 'male violence' wasn't used. We wanted to end violence, equal pay, equal protection under the laws. Modern feminism wants to punish men for being men and give women a boost up. It wants bursaries for women, safe spaces for women. Women only spaces. At the same time, a bursary encouraging men into nursing was shut down after massive protests by feminists.

This story illustrates why I don't want to be associated with modern feminism. It is how recruiters started using blind recruitment (no mention or hint of sex / gender when looking for employees). Feminists were sure that it would prove that they were at a disadvantage. The trial was stopped when men became more likely to be hired in blind recruitment.

interesting read

You may disagree with me but the majority of the UK doesn't. 1 in 5 think feminist is an insult. Only 7% consider themselves feminists despite believing in equality of the sexes.

Why do you think this is? BTW, blaming a 'male dominated media' or other nonsense patronises women and assumes we can't think for ourselves.

Thanks,

Sophia

bambambini · 06/08/2017 02:50

I think feminism is eating itself.

SplatController · 06/08/2017 02:51

Haha, I went into autopilot there.

Looks like I'll need another name change after this thread Smile

SuperBeagle · 06/08/2017 02:51

I have no interest in calling myself a feminist, but my values inherently align with many feminist values (not all).

gingergenius · 06/08/2017 02:52

Yes

NoLoveofMine · 06/08/2017 02:52

It's baffling Assassinated. Your posts are always informative though; I love reading them.

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BlueKarou · 06/08/2017 02:53

I would call myself a feminist, although I suspect many here would dispute it or think themselves a 'better' type of feminist. I don't know if there is a word or a label for an inclusionary feminist, but I think that's along the lines of what I am. I've now said feminist too many times for one post!

Nightshirt · 06/08/2017 02:53

Yes

NoLoveofMine · 06/08/2017 02:54

You don't need to name change SplatController. I disagree with your post but thanks for explaining your opinion.

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