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We're going to have to call a halt to Brexit aren't we?

999 replies

Hufflepug · 31/07/2017 09:51

Lukewarm Remain voter here. Understand that the Government has to listen to 'the will of the people' and all that.

But for the love of God, now that it's clear what absolute economic suicide we're committing surely we've got to put a halt to it whilst the govt and the opposition work out what the fuck's going on!

AIBU

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TheElementsSong · 09/08/2017 17:01

I know there will be trouble ahead, everyone knew that.

How odd. I paid a great deal of attention during the referendum campaign, and I didn't notice any Leave promises of hardship, shortage, strife and difficulty that would last for up to 100 years. Not even on the side of a bus. Perhaps it was my inferior intellect which caused me to misunderstand or misremember these apparently obvious points in the Leave campaign.

Whereas I guess every Leave voter strode confidently into the polling booth, pen in hand, intoning "Yes to hardship, yes to shortage, yes to strife, yes to difficulty, yes to 100 years..."

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 17:05

I asked cardinal was I correct in thinking there would be a fudge
Oh look you said it too.... lol......,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. a fudge,,,,,,,,
You jumped up and down - ' fudge give me strength' - I simply pointed out your incorrect comprehension. Think I knew what you mean.
A fudge as in a botched up agreement..

Maybe a diagram ????? hope this helps.....

CardinalSin · 09/08/2017 17:07

The government will decide that it's not in the country's interest and decide to either stop it unilaterally (unlikely), or set up another referendum on the "deal" that has been "negotiated" by David Davis, weighted rather more heavily in favour of not losing than the last stupid referendum. Leave will lose, and Article 50 will be rescinded and Unicorns will once again roam the sunlit uplands of the UK.

Not sure what is so difficult to work out about that, but them I'm not in Mensa.

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 17:07

TheElementsSong you vote stay, so you darn well knew what would happen if we left, so are you saying everyone who voted leave is as thick as .....
Come on you can do much better than this.

E- for effort.

TheNumberfaker · 09/08/2017 17:10

I'm not hoping for a fudge.

I'm hoping that MPs from all parties ( Grin there aren't any UKIP ones!) manage to block the Repeal Bill and vote for A50 to be retracted. They will want to once it becomes blindingly obvious to even them most ardent Leaver that Brexit is going to be a catastrophe. Could be backed up by a referendum but it's not needed since we have Parliamentary Sovereignty and the 2016 referendum was only advisory anyway.
I think the EU would be happy to keep us in, who knows whether we need their approval or not? If we do, we might have to reduce the rebate, agree to Euro/Schengen/Army. It would be worth it. Oh together with a change to A50 process that A50 can only be invoked with a supermajority.

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 17:11

If ifs and ands were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers' hands.

Peregrina · 09/08/2017 17:18

and I didn't notice any Leave promises of hardship, shortage, strife and difficulty that would last for up to 100 years. Not even on the side of a bus.

Indeed no. The Remain camp were dismissed as preaching Project Fear when we said that people would be worse off. No one said 'You ain't seen nothing yet, it's going to go on for a hundred years.'

whosafraidofabigduckfart · 09/08/2017 17:19

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TheElementsSong · 09/08/2017 17:20

so are you saying everyone who voted leave is as thick as

Eh? How did you get there? Is this an example of genius-level highly-intellectual inductive reasoning? Wow.

In fact, your entire post appears to have nothing to do with what I wrote, with the exception of my username. But again, perhaps I'm just not up to your superior standard of debate.

Peregrina · 09/08/2017 17:21

mummmy - you are sounding as empty headed as Boris Johnson. Now I don't know what his IQ is and if he is a member of MENSA. I don't doubt that he's intelligent; he's just too lazy to use his brain. Not someone I personally would wish to copy, but each to their own.

alltouchedout · 09/08/2017 17:25

I think mummmy is enjoying this :)

TheElementsSong · 09/08/2017 17:28

My working hypothesis is that mummmy is a Remainer on a massive wind-up.

CardinalSin · 09/08/2017 17:30

If she's not enjoying it then she really is think as pigshit!

whosafraidofabigduckfart · 09/08/2017 17:31

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TheNumberfaker · 09/08/2017 17:48

Nah, not TM, it's Andrea Leadsome, she is a real mummy, remember!

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 20:46

Back as had things to do.
thanks did enjoy this...

TheNightmanCometh · 09/08/2017 20:58

Tee hee. But whoever or whatever mummy is, let's all remember, it's nowhere near done yet. There is action we can take.

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 21:24

Love how we can all

Looks down front of T-Shirt oh boobs,yes I am real.
DD wants to know if Davis can't organise a piss up in a brewery , why does either side have any hope in him.

mummmy2017 · 09/08/2017 21:31

In saying that you could see that leaving would mean hardship, why do you think that this hasn't occurred to the the other side, yet despite this we still wanted to leave.
Either people saw this and understood it and voted to still leave, or they didn't see it and must have been very thick not to see this.

Allofaflumble · 09/08/2017 22:21

CardinalSin can't spell "thick"! 😁

TheNumberfaker · 09/08/2017 22:23

Perhaps not thick. Lied to, gullible, naive, more used to voting for X Factor/Big Brother etc. than politics.

londonista · 09/08/2017 22:31

Farage is like a dog that circles around a rug looking for a place to crap. When he does so it, he denies that it stinks or is in any way a problem, in fact we should thank him for improving the rug, then casually strolls off.

And Brexiters are fine with this - this is the reason I think they're thick as a plank.

CardinalSin · 09/08/2017 23:35

"Either people saw this and understood it and voted to still leave, or they didn't see it and must have been very thick not to see this."

Yes. They were.

mathanxiety · 10/08/2017 00:38

mummmy2017 Wed 09-Aug-17 08:07:35
You do know 1 in 4 tourists to Spain are English.

And therefore 3 in 4 are not.

Given the criticism of English tourists in the articles I linked, how do you know that a shortfall in numbers of English tourists wouldn't be made up by tourists from elsewhere who stayed away because they didn't want to have to deal with the English abroad?

Spain is currently dealing with anti-tourism protests. No wonder, if the sort of arrogance inherent in the statement 'You do know 1 in 4 tourists to Spain are English.'

mathanxiety · 10/08/2017 00:49

Mummy:
If we use the Single market then we have to agree to honor all their trade deals, I think you will find we are leaving it for this reason and will be making new ones of our own.

Priceless.
It takes two to make a trade deal.

Let's take a trade deal with the US as an example...
Whose interests will be reflected more in that?