About nursery

[Caramacloverr]

My son attends nursery 4 days a week. They've had no problem with keeping him later than needed (had a baby 4 month ago, no other childcare). They've kept him until 4 before. I asked for them to have him for an hour extra today.
I was suppose to collect him at 1, realised at 12.17 that I was in enough time to collect him early. Went to nursery, manager let me into the building but my son's key worker, said to never ask them to have my son later again unless I can prove what I am doing such as an appointment and that it really isn't on
I'm quite taken aback, who is BU?

Sounds like a very charitable nursery to me. Fine to ask for extra hours / days. If the manager agrees it then great. Out of courtesy I would always ask how they want payment for the extra hours (ours add it on the monthly invoice). If they confirm no charge, then fair enough that's their decision and I'd consider myself very lucky,but not very business like behaviour by the nursery on a regular basis. One off emergency I understand they'd want to help out, but being able to offer free extra hours and not charge for them seems odd, so I'd question the Nursery's policies, ratios, contracts etc.

at the start of the year, the manager said additional hours weren't charged for as long as you could provide food and nappies

I have never known a nursery to have such arrangements!

So now the staff have complained to the OP and 'tried to make her feel bad'?

Her child's key person complained to her when she collected her son, did you skim the OP or something?
You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

They didn't complain, let alone 'try to make her feel bad'. They made their expectations clear to the OP.

you and the OP read/hear things that aren't there. No one else can make that better for you.

And I think you've confused 'partnership working' with customer service.

hasitcometothis33
You're talking absolute nonsense now 😂

You're funny

Aww thanks I do try 👍🏻

:)

OP please don't be upset by posters that can't RTfuckingT.
You have a hell of a lot on your shoulders!
You wanted to know if YWBU, you asked the nursery manager (sensible) and you're not!
What ever any random anonymous poster thinks makes no difference.
[flowers]

You're massively taking advantage of the managers kindness. In short, your personal problems are nothing to do with the nursery. YABU for trying to take the piss out of them with sob stories.

OP, you have a lot on your plate at the moment and I don't think you will gain much more from this thread. Suggest you hide it and focus on your children.

Wishing you all the best .

Some of these responses are fucking vile and not what Mumsnet are about.

Agree with QuackDuckQuack

I wish people would read all of the thread. There is such a rush to kick the op.

SHE HAS EXPLAINED WHY SHE WAS GETTING FREE HOURS. YES IT IS UNUSUAL. YES IT WOULD BE LOVELY IF ALL NURSERIES DID IT.

FFS.

I think the OP would rather be having a better life right now than be blagging some free hours.

Hope things improve for you soon

Op..I would hide this thread...

There are 2 issues here..I am very confused at your nursery...Never had I ever heard anything like it ..However that is not your issue. As a childminder if I found someone sitting in the pub while I did extra hours unpaid I would be furious.

I would start a new thread for the other issues.. The two are getting mixed up.

Starlight the nursery staff are not doing extra hours unpaid.

Sorry, my irritation got the better of me.
I was meaning to say also:

Are you all OK with me using my 15 free hours to go and have a coffee while I was signed off work sick?

Are you also all OK with me and DH paying for a babysitter and going out for an adult drink?

What about if the only time DH and I get together is in the daytime, due to shift work etc., am I "allowed" by the wisdom of MN to go and have a drink with him in the daytime? Am I allowed to have an alcoholic beverage at lunchtime while our DC is in nursery? Is it different if I'm going out for a v posh lunch for DH's birthday or sitting in Spoons having a half of lager early afternoon?

It is the unpaid hours that is the factor here. The hospital appointment if I had a parent in that postion I would of probably said get here when you can.. though .I cannot get my head round where the money is coming from..So if the nursery staff are been paid the nursery is paying, someone is paying... I have parents who I actively encourage to spend if they get a day off and have paid childcare to spend time doing stuff for themselves. If they chose to go out in hours were not paid no I wouldn't be paid but then I value my own time to not give away free childcare. I will help my friends out if needed but most my parents I have a professional friendly realationship but they are not my friends.. I find the whole thing odd. However as I have said. I really think in OP current postion , it is resolved for her so I don't see any further discussion helpful for her.

I cannot get my head round where the money is coming from

The local authority, if any extra staff are needed. But my assumption is that free extra hours are only available on a day/time when there are staff in anyway and the nursery is under ratios.

Indirectly, the local authority, too, if no extra staff are needed because there will be tiny extra amounts of resources (paper, crayons, toilet paper) if an extra child is in for 3 hours.

My own DC's nursery will take extra children (and charge extra for sessions as all the 15 hours are already taken) into a session where there is capacity only. They will never, ever take on extra staff for a session where parents are asking for extra (paid) time - even if, say, all local schools were holding their open days in one week so that it was predictable that all parents would need extra sessions that week. So they are in effect doing the opposite - they are filling their spare capacity with paying children.

The council nursery is filling its extra capacity with non-paying children who are in need, or whose parents are in need.

Of course the staff have been paid!