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The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/07/2017 12:56

If we can get our hands free to type from the constant facepalming, we should be able to post on this topic.

Continuation of the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2968382-The-one-where-Trump-just-cant-stop-being-Trump

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BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 17:44

Well this is lovely Smile

The Weekly Authoritarianism List finds a new home at the Library of Congress
medium.com/@Amy_Siskind/the-weekly-authoritarianism-list-finds-a-new-home-at-the-library-of-congress-6288f7ffe552

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 18:07

Well done her. Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 19:17

Especially because she's written about how she's backed it up in several formats/places as she was worried it would be deleted!

Lweji · 16/07/2017 19:24

Although translators are accused of toning down Trump on this Daily Show clip, Trump is still largely unpopular around the world.
Except in Russia.

You may also want to watch the first bit on his comments to Brigitte Macron.

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 19:33

I believe - I stand to be corrected - that he's also popular in Israel, Lweji.

orlantina · 16/07/2017 19:36

Interesting discussion about the Secret Service.

Was Trump at the meeting? Why did Trump's lawyer mention the Secret Service?

Judd Legum‏Verified account
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Did Donald Trump’s lawyer accidentally make a huge confession about the meeting with the Russian lawyer?

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 19:41

Junior would have a SS bodyguard also wouldn't he? (As the eldest son etc.)

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 19:48

True. I'd forgotten the timing. Smile

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 19:52

I do hope that Sekulow has..........misspoken. Smile

orlantina · 16/07/2017 19:54

Can the Secret Service records be subpeoenad?

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 19:55

For the Intel Committee to see? In closed session? I just don't know, I fear.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 20:39

Talking of Israel:

Barak Ravid
Barak Ravid @BarakRavid
BREAKING: Netanyahu: Israel rejects the ceasefire deal in southern Syria that was reached between US & Russia because it empowers Iran

Jake Sherman @JakeSherman
Jerusalem warned the U.S. before it struck this deal that it was not to Israel’s liking.

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 20:45

Who knew the Middle East was so complicated?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 20:48

Indeed Grin

We've not heard from ivanka in awhile

Philip Rucker
Philip Rucker @PhilipRucker
Asked if “Made in America” week includes commitment by Trump Org or Ivanka brand to produce in USA, WH says "we’ll get back to you on that."

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 20:50

Amy Siskind
Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind
Russia is still meddling in our lives, & Trump is allowing them to stay & attack American citizens — he welcomes it! t.co/unxG9kZG2g?amp=1

The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia
orlantina · 16/07/2017 20:50

Israel rejects the ceasefire deal in southern Syria that was reached between US & Russia because it empowers Iran

Well that's going to complicate things.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 20:51

This is a good if sobering summary:

uk.businessinsider.com/evidence-russia-meddled-in-us-election-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

orlantina · 16/07/2017 20:58

Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 7m7 minutes ago
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Secret Service confirms Don Jr. was not under protection in June 2016 & they wouldn't have vetted people he met with

thinkprogress.org/did-donald-trumps-lawyer-accidentally-make-a-huge-confession-about-the-meeting-with-the-russian-49469e9226ae

lionheart · 16/07/2017 21:00

On that security point:

Judd Legum‏Verified account @JuddLegum 8m8 minutes ago
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So why did Trump Sr's lawyer say the attendees were vetted by Secret Service?

Two possibilities:

  1. Trump's lawyer is lying
  1. Trump Sr. was expected to attend the meeting
orlantina · 16/07/2017 21:02

Just another question at the off the record, no cameras allowed White House Press briefing.

Can his lawyer get a lawyer?

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 21:08

There is also the possibility that Sekulow just committed the most enormous gaffe/mistake, lion. Not the best thing for your lawyer to do, whatever the reason. Smile

lionheart · 16/07/2017 21:13

A pleasing third option. Smile

orlantina · 16/07/2017 21:17

When you've lied, maintaining a lie is hard to do

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 21:19

I can almost see the conversation now. 'Better to let us speak for you Mr President. You know what these fake news people are like - they'll just twist your words'. (Or something like that. Grin)