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The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/07/2017 12:56

If we can get our hands free to type from the constant facepalming, we should be able to post on this topic.

Continuation of the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2968382-The-one-where-Trump-just-cant-stop-being-Trump

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/07/2017 12:06

Did his mother never tell him "Two wrongs don't' make a right"?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 12:30

There's more:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Thank you to all of the supporters, who far out-numbered the protesters, yesterday at the Women's U.S. Open. Very cool!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Thank you to former campaign adviser Michael Caputo for saying so powerfully that there was no Russian collusion in our winning campaign.

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
With all of its phony unnamed sources & highly slanted & even fraudulent reporting, #Fake News is DISTORTING DEMOCRACY in our country!

BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 12:45

So one of the advisors for his own campaign has said their was no collusion with the Russians? Well, that's me convinced! Hmm

BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 12:48

The Trumpcare vote had been delayed because McCain is having surgery and can't make the vote.

thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/342206-mcconnell-delays-healthcare-vote-after-mccain-surgery?amp

Gumpendorf · 16/07/2017 13:02

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

This is long but interesting detailing Trump's history with Russian mafia. It makes the point several times about there being no evidence that Trump was involved. That may be to satisfy lawyers or it could just be that all Trump saw in these transactions was $$$ and influence. In which case, he might genuinely see himself as not actively colluding because it was just an extension of his business dealings with Russia. He may just have been Putin and Bannon'S useful fool.

Ok, maybe not GrinGrin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 13:13

Oh yay, more celeb turned politicians:

The Hill
The Hill @thehill
Caitlyn Jenner: I might run for Senate

t.co/OaKcRB4ccH?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 13:37

Peter Daou
Peter Daou @peterdaou

  1. PURPLE LIZARD THREAD. On the "beliefs" of Fox watchers, Trump fans, and Hillary haters. BELIEVING SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. (1/11)
  2. HYPOTHETICAL: 30% of Americans watch a news channel that claims purple lizards run the world and are stealing money. DAMN PURPLE LIZARDS!
  3. Everywhere these people turn, they see purple lizards. In universities, in the media, in entertainment. Cheating, lying purple lizards.
  4. A big media outlet does a poll on what's ailing America. 30% of respondents believe it's purple lizards. Vile, corrupt purple lizards.
  5. These people *BELIEVE* it's all the fault of the purple lizards. Does that "belief" have any connection to reality? Of course not.
  6. When a majority of Republicans say they don't believe Russia intervened in our election, their belief is WRONG. FALSE. UNINFORMED.
  7. When a majority of Fox News watchers believe Hillary Clinton is an evil monster, their belief is WRONG. FALSE. UNINFORMED.
  8. No wishful thinking, denial, deflection, or false "beliefs" can alter reality. What's real is real; what's true is true. FACTS ARE FACTS.
  9. Reporters, pundits, and pollsters are enamored with Trump voters, many of whom hold beliefs that are disconnected from truth and reality.
10. Purple lizards don't run the world, no matter how fervently some people might believe it, and no matter how many people repeat it. 11. A huge component of our struggle as Democrats and progressives is simply to defend the truth from false, corrosive, Fox-fueled beliefs.
orlantina · 16/07/2017 15:23

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 12m12 minutes ago
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The ABC/Washington Post Poll, even though almost 40% is not bad at this time, was just about the most inaccurate poll around election time!

Bless...

BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 15:26

I love the way he can't help but try and spin it as being a good poll, even while claiming it is completely inaccurate. Grin

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 15:27

A market view - from CNN Money.

If Obamacare is not repealed

orlantina · 16/07/2017 15:28

Love the spin

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/14/russian-lobbyist-unnamed-translator-attended-trump-tower-meeting-with-russian-lawyer.html

Rinat Akhmetshin, who NBC identified as a Russian-American lobbyist, confirmed his participation to the Associated Press. Akhmetshin denied reports he has ties to Russian intelligence agencies

Or in the Guardian

Ex-Soviet counter-intelligence officer says he attended Trump Jr meeting

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 15:30

This is throwing someone under the bus with a vengeance!

Lweji · 16/07/2017 15:32

He's the ultimate Schroedinger's President.

It's bad and it's good.
It's fake and it's true.
It matters and it doesn't matter.
It's a wall but not like a wall
It's a ban and not a ban.
It's great healthcare and mean.
I respect women more than anyone else but totally ignore them (unless they're siblings of big donours).
I love the environment and really don't care.

It would be fun if not tragic.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 15:38
Hmm

ABC News Politics
ABC News Politics @ABCPolitics
Jay Sekulow on Russia meeting: “If this was nefarious, why'd the Secret Service allow these people in?” t.co/pgUx8lRHc8?amp=1

Lweji · 16/07/2017 15:52

Remember when Trump was so worried that Obama had (according to him) wiretapped his phones/Trump Tower?

Because nothing untoward had happened there, of course.

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 15:53

They're trying to 'spin it' of course. Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 15:54

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59698037e4b017418627ac98/amp

Head Of Trump Voter Fraud Probe Wanted To Change Law To Make Registering More Difficult

Kris Kobach sought to make it acceptable to impose a proof-of-citizenship requirement, according to newly public emails.

BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 16:06

I'm not absolutely convinced Jay Sekulow understands what it is the secret service actually does. Hmm

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 16:14

I'm not absolutely convinced that Jay Sekulow understands what it is that anyone actually does. Wink

Lweji · 16/07/2017 16:17

Very interesting interview with two former Presidents.

Some comments about respect for former presidents, friendship, being humble in victory.

I wonder if a certain T has watched it.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2017 16:22

After all this yes/no/maybe so/it is/it's not/I'm not telling you, will someone PLEASE take this 'chorus-only' ear worm away?

BiglyBadgers · 16/07/2017 16:27

Cozie Grin

cozietoesie · 16/07/2017 16:42

It's a fairly common slant in many countries, I suspect.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/07/2017 16:50

Sharon Thompson
Sharon Thompson @MotherSquid
Replying to @ThisWeekABC
The mirroring of events from Nixonian times is remarkable! Chappaquidic=Benghazi, emails.. The Press is to blame & *DEMS are sore losers.

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