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14 year old son wanted to go to a pride event today, DH says he was too young! Was he BU?

235 replies

ChangingThatName · 08/07/2017 22:08

Is DH being unreasonable?

Our 14 year old asked me if we could go to a pride event today. My DH quickly interrupted with a 'definitely not' and tbh, I didn't see much of an issue with it, but then began to wonder. Is he a bit too young to go to a pride event? Was DH being unreasonable?

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RightAreYouSure · 09/07/2017 00:01

It clearly says in the OP he asked if we could go.

How is it an opinion? Is it really an opinion for me to think black people are less important than white people or disabled people are not equal. Of course it isn't!

Also, how is a crush any different? What you really mean is "he's too young to decide he's gay" because let's face it, you don't really think a 12 year old is too young to think they're heterosexual.

AfraidOfMyShadow · 09/07/2017 00:03

ovaries not do I. I think you have the right to do and believe as you wish as long as you are not harming anyone. I'm glad people are no longer sent to prison for being gay. I'm glad society has come so far. At the same time as a Christian I believe some things are a sin and I'm less than happy about them especially when it effects my family.

twelly · 09/07/2017 00:03

Whilst the event may be for many about acceptance some of the costumes the themselves are adult in nature , one of the posts on this thread states this as well, whilst the media has shown this. For this reason I would not want a 14 year old attending.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 09/07/2017 00:03

Our (straight, female C of E) vicar was heavily involved in the Pride celebrations in our town. She wore a rainbow stole and dyed the ends of her hair in rainbow colours. She's ace.

RightAreYouSure · 09/07/2017 00:04

But Afraid how does who your DSS end up in a relationship with affect you?

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 09/07/2017 00:05

So you think I have the right to do and believe as I wish, but your stepson doesn't? If it's such a problem right now that he thinks he's gay, how will you react if/when he does come out?

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 09/07/2017 00:06

Silently, I'm curious about how you feel pushed out. Could you explain? You don't have to. I'm not asking in a judgemental way.

There simply wasn't enough space for all of the gay/trans groups who want to march today to do so because so many straight people were taking part in the in name of 'inclusion'. Older people, like me, just don't show up anymore because the streets are rammed with straight people who think that they are at a free Glastonbury.

I have friends working doors in Soho who, tonight, are getting nothing but abuse from heterosexuals who think they have more right to be in clubs than anyone else. It's frustrating and it has pretty much washed all the politics out of the day.

RightAreYouSure · 09/07/2017 00:06

Afraid but your beliefs are going to half someone - your DSS.

RightAreYouSure · 09/07/2017 00:06

*harm

LilQueenie · 09/07/2017 00:08

totally unreasonable. Its about acceptance of others. I take DD to them and no problems at all. At this stage she just loves the colours and parades and music but if she asked I would just tell her its the opposite of hate we are celebrating. Do you not think he is being taught this stuff in school in sex ed or whatever they call it now.

AfraidOfMyShadow · 09/07/2017 00:12

Well my DSS trusted me enough to tell me but telling his father just wouldn't be a good idea. So I'm not harming him at all.

When you actually believe what the bible says you want your family and those you love to follow it too. The bible describes ideals for relationships and while I might accept others like DSS may not have this I feel sad for them. Already I'd say DSS has had a bad experience - seeing an older boy. I accept and will always accept him but I think his life will be harder. It's why on the other hand I'm glad societies attitude is better to gay people. I am bit conflicted.

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 09/07/2017 00:12

i understand the being usurped by non gays part.but if heteros arent a part how do you fight homophobia?

Straight people turning up to Pride doesn't nothing to stamp out homophobia. Young homophobes aren't made to see the light by attending Pride, they would have no interest in attending in the first place. Furthermore, it's the job of straight people to sort out their own homophobia, not for the gays to cure them of it.

winglesspegasus · 09/07/2017 00:18

the book is 45 yrs old
read it in lit class/it can be seen as a political statement
tyrants corporations etc.
alot of 60s and 70s books and movies.were allegorical.
tolkiens books were as well.
planet of the apes too.
some were just fun like fritz the cat !!!!!

winglesspegasus · 09/07/2017 00:18

sorry wrong post

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 09/07/2017 00:20

@Afraid, if you believe in the template laid out in the bible for an ideal family, why are you part of a step family?

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 09/07/2017 00:21

Silently Star

winglesspegasus · 09/07/2017 00:21

sorry about that dd was reading this and i was on watership down one.
didnt realize she'd changed pages.

Summerisdone · 09/07/2017 00:23

@winglesspegasus hahaha I was scratching my head trying to figure out where 'Fritz the Cat' came in to all this Grin

AfraidOfMyShadow · 09/07/2017 00:23

Silently because we are human we all sin. I am certain it would be easier if my husband didn't make a mistake in his teens but he did and now we are doing our best. It would be easier if he'd waited till marriage as the bible advises.

Toysaurus · 09/07/2017 00:24

Silently, I see where you're coming from. I was at Bristol today and I think it's fair to say that was very gay. However, it was so busy - successful - that people couldn't get into to the post parade event.

I can see how it can be treated like another free festival.

I do think it's good for children to go. I've brought mine up from day one to understand about all different types of love and relationships. I'm not heterosexual or gay and neither does bisexual fit.

And I get where you are coming from about the educating. Different but similar, I get fed up to fuck with having to educate people about disability access all the time. It's tiring and frustrating.

winglesspegasus · 09/07/2017 00:27

get up for a cup of coffee and shes in my chair.
shes having fits over this thread..

Liiinoo · 09/07/2017 00:27

Afraid. I am also a (straight, married) Christian woman. I love our local Pride parade. I love the colour and the dancing and it's message of universal love and acceptance. For that alone i think it's one of the most truly Christian events I know.

We have gay friends and relations and my DC have not been harmed in anyway by knowing same-sex couples.When my DD was about 7 she learned that some people disapprove of gay relationships for religious reasons. She was most surprised and said in absolute wonder 'But surely God would just be happy that people love each other'.

dustarr73 · 09/07/2017 00:36

Silently if you want all inclusion, then that means pride having straight people at it.You can't pick and choose.

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 09/07/2017 00:36

I grew up not knowing any gay people, in a very repressed, super-Christian area (thankfully with a very supportive mum). It was horrible and I didn't feel able to be myself.

I didn't even feel that I could come out to then-BF (now DH) because he's from the same area and I thought that liking girls as well as boys was something dirty and wrong. I remember spending weeks agonising over a snog with a girl when I was 15.

I am so relieved that DD will grow up knowing that I am unafraid to say that I am bi; that her uncle is gay, that our best friends - who she knows as an auntie and uncle - are a bisexual woman and a transgender man, that another set of our closest friends who she knows as aunties are a lesbian couple. She won't grow up in that same repressed environment.

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 09/07/2017 00:37

@Afraid, I've had a look at your previous posts and while none of us is perfect, I find it utterly unfathomable that you imagine you're in a position to make moral judgements about, well anything really.

I'm not going to say any more, I can see how many post have been removed in the thread where you discuss your situation, but I'm honestly open mouthed that you 'feel sad' for gay people.

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