To think it's inevitable that JC will be PM and TM should just let it happen ASAP

[brexitstolemyfuture]

They are now pretty much at the same popularity and in the years to come there will be millions more Labour voters and millions of Tory voters that will pass away. It's pretty much a done deal right? So why doesn't TM just go now?

If Labour get in in the next 6 months, you'll find that the party has as big a split on Europe as the Tories.

Corbyn has a deep dislike of the EU. He won't stop Brexit. There won't be a soft Brexit and it will still be a shambles.

The precariously positioned Government that we have at the moment is possibly the best we can hope for at the moment as it is something thats far bigger than party politics and needs the whole of the House to work together.

But OP surely you can see that if, in the next or future GE, the vote is 42% Labour and 40% Conservative then your original premise still stands - Labour would step down to let Conservatives govern!

You DO see that it (your original suggestion) works both ways don't you??

OP it is true that people as they get older become more right wing. They have lived through Governments of both sides.

I was a Labour voter, I even went door to door for the Party. Now I am true blue as I have aged (46), same thing happened to my DM, not my DF though he trusted none of them.

BMW6 - Good point! Like many Tory voters, I wasn't happy with the outcomes of the 2005 or 2001 elections, but I don't recall people suggesting we overthrow the democratic decision, protesting in London, etc, on those occasions. Funny how those things only seem to happen when it's Labour who lose.

🤔not sure you understand how politics works op... 🙄

Also don't forget many people voted tactically to keep the Tories out, not because they were anti Tory but because they didn't want a hard brexit.

Gina miller plumped thousands into getting people voting a certain way.

Students had two votes their university address and their home address, some of my dd friends were bragging about it.

Corbyn is 68 in 5 years he will be to old

Oh dear

You obviously don't know much about British politics. The Tories will back May for now and elect a new leader in time for the next election. But they won't forget to remind us how they (The Tories) dealt with an extremely difficult time to lead the country

Now as Labour are supporting the government over Brexit how can they claim when things start to become really difficult that they would have done it differently

And now the party will continue the in fighting as the party moves more to the left will voters follow when things get more difficult for their mainly mc supporters will they want to pay more tax when it's tough for them I doubt so many will

The young that came out to vote may and many are likely to feel quite differently when they are working and paying taxes they may be more critical of Labours manifesto (as they are more likely to be in the bracket for paying more) and angry that they didn't provide an opposition to the governments plans for Brexit

The Tories already have 2022 election in their sights and if Corbyn stays leader will win it as they shall most definitely get rid of May

Now look at where we are.

Yes, we're in a great position.

I often wonder how the young corbynistas reconcile their worship of JC with their staunch pro Europe view. He's been extremely anti EU over the long period. I think JC is basically the cute old man/charismatic orator acting as a facade for some very dangerous people. I really think they need to make animal farm and 1984 compulsory reading in school. I guess it's a sign of the times so many people are falling for it.

Op come on now, you are embarrassing yourself

but it would be good to stop brexit now. The vote was so close and if it was called again could easily be remain with the upswing of new people that voted and lots of the older demographic now dead.

Er. Democracy again. The vote was done - people voted. You can't just redo the vote because people voted in a way you didn't like!!!!!!!!

And I am a remainer.

Yu sound a tad delusional.

I think young peeple often vote labour - they are not paying tax/not working.

As they get older and get good jobs and make more money, they realise that their money is being used to pay for Labour's promises - and start to vote Tory...

But Corbyn has accepted the vote

Becuase he would have absolutely supported leave if he wasn't the leader of the Labour Party and still a back bencher but decided to keep his position rather than stick to his principles

brexitstolemyfuture. You seem rather ignorant of how the democratic process works. You may wish that JC and Labour had won the election and that we voted to remain in the EU, but the reality is that neither happened, no matter how much you fantasize.

Well this thread is bonkers. OP, quite a few people voted in the GE. On the basis of their votes MPs won seats and a government was formed. This is how our democratic system works. We don't just overthrow years of democracy because some people don't like the result (at least I hope we don't. Obs people like McDonnell would be quite happy to).

I would be interested to know how old you are OP. Your comments about Tory voters dying off are revolting as well as misplaced and simplistic. Someone on my twitter feed was musing why so many people seem to think it is okay to protest against democratic decisions as soon as they are reached (Brexit, now GE) and was wondering if it was to do with a need for instant gratification in our society. I don't know if that is true but it terrifies me that so many people have so little knowledge of and respect for our democracy. Countries do lose democracy, we really should cherish it.

Someone up thread said that TM is "pro Brexit", but she was a staunch Remainer. She is executing Brexit but did not want it

I thought you were joking when I first read your OP. I am frankly amazed that you actually aren't. I think you have been brainwashed.

I'm a Labour voting Remainer but I am bewildered by your stance, OP. Nothing is certain at all; the Tory landslide was inevitable- but then it crumbled to nothing. The same could happen to Labour if another election was called, especially given Corbyn's approach to Brexit. I would think carefully about my vote having just voted Labour as it becomes evident that Corbyn will not relent on Brexit and the party is still bitterly divided. I'd welcome another EU referendum and hope it would result in a large majority for Remain. I support Labour but I think Corbyn will let us down badly on the EU. And no, May shouldn't just hand him the reins, it really isn't how things work!

Students had two votes their university address and their home address, some of my dd friends were bragging about it

Not in a General Election they don't. They can however vote in both local elections.

As for the OP, this is an unrealistic suggestion. Labour and Corbyn were up against the most unprepared shambolic Tory campaign that I have ever seen, and they still lost. It's unlikely that they'll make the same mistake twice.

Ok so I had a few g &t s yesterday

But there is kinda a point there, I just want another GE as I'm fuming with the dup bung. It's still 42% vs 40%. The knives are out for TM and I don't think she ever wanted the job!

So how do feel about Labour trying to do a deal with the DUP in 2010 AND 2015? Gordon Brown also did a deal in 2008?

But there is kinda a point there, I just want another GE as I'm fuming with the dup bung. It's still 42% vs 40%.

Suppose we had another vote and it ended up 42% vs 40% but in Labour's favour. Would that be acceptable? Or should we just have endless "do-overs" until one party gets 50% or more?

brexit you might want another general election but I want to be 9 stone and neither of those things are going to happen this year.

just because we want something doesn't mean we get it. most grown ups know this.

the tory campaign was a shambles - the worst in my lifetime and yet STILL they beat Corbyn.

its time to accept the result and move on. for everyone.

I think it may happen but cant be forced.

Personally i will never "flip from.left to right" unless i have a lobotomy.

and Finally I will never vote for an anti Semitic terrorist apologist either.

I might however vote Labour when they go back to being Labour and not Momentum.