To think it's inevitable that JC will be PM and TM should just let it happen ASAP

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They are now pretty much at the same popularity and in the years to come there will be millions more Labour voters and millions of Tory voters that will pass away. It's pretty much a done deal right? So why doesn't TM just go now?

Many people don't see the Tories as failing that's why they voted for them and th got mor votes
than Labour so of course they are not going to stand aside because some people don't agree

Can see this running as Labours stance for the next few years while the Tories forge ahead with Brexit with no official opposition from Labour the Tories shall trade off this and the tragic issues these last few months remind the public who were the party that kept everything together and which party got on with Brexit and Corbyn shall still be waffling about May stepping aside

the Tories shall trade off this and the tragic issues these last few months remind the public who were the party that kept everything together and which party got on with Brexit and Corbyn shall still be waffling about May stepping aside

I think there is a lot of truth in that.

Union block vote has to go. Unelected power mad idiots trying to sway the uk government by electing one of their own. God help us all if they win. Learn Russian or leave the country

Can see this running as Labours stance for the next few years while the Tories forge ahead with Brexit with no official opposition from Labour the Tories shall trade off this and the tragic issues these last few months remind the public who were the party that kept everything together and which party got on with Brexit and Corbyn shall still be waffling about May stepping aside

Or alternatively, No Plan Brexit leaves us in a long slide of slow misery. Bad deals with Trump. Burst housing bubble. Privatised NHS. No growth. Real inflation. Continued widening between the rich and everyone else. Shaded Neo fuedalism. More curtailment of freedom through things like the Snooper Charter. The poor, sick, elderly, and disabled suffering.

The question was whether this Tory/DUP Regime should stand aside. If they had a shred of honour, they would.

But they have lashed themselves to this terrible ideology. This Social Darwinistic, Neo-fuedalistic nightmare.

Theresa May thinks God is on her side.

Look, it's understandable. You've had a shock. The world is not how you thought it was. You are feeling around for props to cobble your right-wing beliefs back together.

It is understandable. Don't double down on strong and stable. This Regime is neither, hanging on with murky deals with the likes of the DUP.

The rich are not better people.

God is not on your side.

"You are feeling around for props to cobble your right-wing beliefs back together."

There you go again assuming everyone who dislikes Corbyn must be a Tory.

May thinks that god is on her side

Well that's a new one not heard that before

Again it's irrelevant that many disagree with what the Tories are doing even without the DUP May could still run a minority government it would be extremely difficult but with Labour in disarray it wouldn't be impossible and Labour officially are not opposing the governments Brexit plans

I am well aware of the faults of the Tory government and the damage being done but unless Labour move more to the centre and they get a credible leader who can actually lead an opposition party and hold the government to account rather than someone who just attends rallies someone who actually does some political work rather than someone who hasn't moved on from being a student union rep and also there isn't someone like McDonnell in the shadow cabinet an obvious agitator then the Tories will win the next election they won't make the same mistake again

And of course the will remind the public how well the managed the most difficult of times and in that time what have Labour actually done ?

And of course the will remind the public how well the managed the most difficult of times and in that time what have Labour actually done*

I think this doesn't do nearly enough service to the very dangerous course we are on.

That is what the question will be

Have Labour put forward proposed details on how terrorism needs to be dealt with and the problem of young people being radicalised

Have they put forward proposed details on how to deal with the Grenfell victims ones that can actually be but in places rather than create more anger

And then of course there is Brexit what opposition are they putting up to the governments plans none

Being in opposition is not just about attacking the leading party it's putting strong workable proposals forward Corbyn hasn't stepped up to this he still acts as the rebellious back bencher he always has been and he he still wittering on as many of his supporters are about May stepping aside and in the meantime May is actually getting on with actual politics. Like it or not what the Tories are doing they are doing something that is making actual changes to our country

Like it or not what the Tories are doing they are doing something that is making actual changes to our country

They are ineed changing the country.

30k excess deaths in 2015 alone due to care cuts.

Security compromised through cuts.

Economy suffocated by cuts.

Housing in caos, perhaps on top of bubble.

Savers defenestrated.

Over the cliff Brexit.

We know the damage being done anyone who works in the NHS knows that doesn't mean Labour have the answers becuase their manifesto had huge financial holes

Yet still Labour couldn't win and they won't win moving to the left and with Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum leading the party it didn't happen with the Tories most disastrous election campaign and it won't happen in 2022 no matter how many times Corbyn/McDonnell tell us it's unfair we know many of experience the unfairness but for many Corbyn/McDonnell are not the answer

Apparently May is signalling she could use a little Labour help.

Not up to it?

Well she getting it by Labour being such a poor opposition

And there being no opposition officially from Labour over Brexit

How disappointing for those that voted to remain and are still hopeful that we might not leave or for at least a soft Brexit and voted believing Labour would at least support and work towards this should they not win

Asking for Cross party support is absolutely not unusual in our parliamentary system, particularly if the government of the day does not have a majority on its own.
Jezza was quite happy to support TM on Parliament on triggering article 50.
Do you think that the opposition votes against the government on everything? Really?
Make, you need to spend some time understanding our parliamentary system.
And the sick joke that JC tried to "whip" support from other Labour MPs on article 50 after he has spent a parliamentary career defying the Labour whip.
"Whip" is a parliamentary term. Look it up. And look up how many times Jezza has defied it. But still never left Labour because the money is too good.

So you see no connection between her very, very precarious position and this plea for help?

It isn't corbyn who will get her.

I see a PM who has been hammered but not beaten in a GE.
She may well be vulnerable to being unseated as PM but it will be by another Tory . This happened to Thatcher and can happen to her. She sees a bit of positive publicity in being more cuddly and is trying to get better press by doing it to stave off a leadership revolt. Harder to launch a Tory leadership challenge against someone who's found a bit of good press. Who knows- she might stick it out. The emphasis is on who can form a government. Jc can't- simple maths. Maybe another Tory can. I don't want a Tory government, especially one propped up by the DUP but that is how UK parliamentary democracy currently works.

Any idea that she is falling under JC's hypnotic spell is nonsense. As is the preposterous idea that she has somehow turned into a Christian fundamentalist like those DUP twats.

Seriously, make, you need to be a bit more realistic about the mechanics of this.

But if you don't wanna, that's ok. Just don't expect other people to feel the same. Some will. That's their thing. It's not mine.

Cross party support on such issues isn't unusual as already been pointed out

Of course she is in a precarious position would she reach out of kit I doubt it but she is still PM and Corbyn is no closer to being PM but who is is someone in the Tories wings. They will be careful who they choose and it will certainly be someone who connects better with the public than May (hardly difficult) but let's not forget she still got the highest popularity vote for some time higher than Blair or Thatcher that can't be dismissed

The world is changing. It cannot be stopped. There is no going back to this past that never existed.

On such big issues

Obviously we haven't left the EU before so this is all new and I personally believe there should be a cross party committee dealing with this not sure Corbyn would actually agree to that considering his pathetic stance during the referendum campaign

Jezsus has now announced he will write off all outstanding student loans (at a cost of £100billion +).

He is a complete fantasist.