It's too hot for high drama, but nonetheless we persist (Trump cont.)

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I'm all out of inspiration here. The grind is getting us all down, interspersed with terrorist attacks, but we shall overcome. In the meantime, there's gin and camaraderie.

Previous thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2952694

Where is Pence?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-white-house-complicit-russia-scandal-public-view-us-vice-president-a7744241.html

Is he not in Florida? (Visiting the Space Centre etc......)

His Chief of Staff resigned yesterday, I think.

What happens next with Illinois?

I guess they'll try to cobble something together tomorrow and keep their fingers crossed.

There's apparently a 'glimmer of hope' now.

"The Illinois House on Friday cleared a hurdle toward a Democratic spending plan — with GOP support — as lawmakers tried to put an end to a draining budget impasse described on the floor as a “nightmare.”

The stalemate’s effects include a sinking state credit rating, the loss of Powerball and Mega Millions lottery games, billions in unpaid bills, and cutbacks at the state’s public universities."

If you click the link, you'll get some idea of the problems. Sadly, they may be the most financially troubled state but they're not the only one.

Those figures are alarming.

money.cnn.com/2017/06/30/news/illinois-what-happens-next/index.html?sr=twCNN070117illinois-what-happens-next1220AMVODtopLink&linkId=39306838

Oh Yes. Lots of financial mismanagement for a long time.

Don't know how much it costs to work for Trump but this is how much you can get:

thehill.com/homenews/administration/340302-white-house-releases-salaries-of-top-trump-staffers

www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/disclosures/07012017-report-final.pdf

A different price that we can understand:

thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/340331-kentucky-secretary-of-state-not-enough-bourbon-in-kentucky-to-make-me

Another state decimated by Democrats.

Thanks lion. I see that 24 states have now refused either wholly or in part?

Yep.

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ayylmaooo, these threads are unashamedly anti-Trump. They were established to exchange information and posts from a variety of sources. If you don't hold the same views, that okay, but I don't see why you're bothering to post at all. We aren't changing our minds; you clearly aren't changing yours. Maybe find a Trump-friendly place?

Claws, you basically just admitted that the truth isn't important to you unless it's anti-Trump. If you just want to vent and bash Trump, fair enough, I guess. Although nothing postitive ever comes from online echo chambers.

I would find a place where everybody agrees with me extremely boring.

No, read more carefully, especially the part established to exchange information and posts from a variety of sources. I wrote that because I anticipated your comeback would be just this. That's lazy. It's also lazy to depend on the same source all the time. That is why so many of us contribute from a range of sources, and they come from all views on the political spectrum, far left to alt-right. Also, truth is not the same as view. I doubt anyone knows the truth. We just can just hold a view and that is our right, and yours too - research it carefully and respect the opinion of others.

I'm not sure if you're lying to me or yourself, but from what I've seen, 95%+ links in this thread are from outlets with a BLATANT anti-Trump agenda. Again, fair enough if that's what you want this thread to be. You can't say this thread is 'unashamedly anti-Trump' and then tell me you share information from every viewpoint as if that means anything. That doesn't even make sense.

We don't share pro-Trump articles because that's not what this thread is about. I meant that on occasion we do share links from right-leaning sites - most anti-Trump, some in the middle, some pro. I don't believe you have read every thread and gone through every link thoroughly, ayylmaooo. That statistic is, as Trump would say, fake.

And it is our right to share what we like on these threads, "BLATANT ANTI-TRUMP AGENDA" or not, as that's what these threads were established for.

I said (twice) it's fair enough if you want this thread to be an anti-Trump circle jerk, just don't lie to yourself and claim it's something else, which you tried to do.

I've never claimed it to be anything else. You just have trouble reading. You also can't hold a discussion without being rude, like a lot of Trump supporters, it seems. I was trying to be reasonable to you but I guess I shouldn't have bothered. Piss off, ayylmaooo. We don't like Trump here so you won't like it. Everyone else, don't respond to the GF any more.

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