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To bake a cake with DD and take it to the mosque?

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PixiePopPops · 19/06/2017 08:56

I know it's a tiny gesture in the grand scheme of things. But I thought maybe baking a cake for the worshippers to eat when they break their fast tonight might be a nice idea? We live a couple of minutes away.

It's just, in other terrorist attacks, there is an immediate outpouring of love and support. Athough it's early, there seems to be a lot less today. Coupled with the biased media reporting. Thought it might be a nice way of showing solidarity and love.

But are they going to be in mourning? Does it seem patronising? I'll absolutely accept if I am BU, please don't flame me.

OP posts:
originalbiglymavis · 19/06/2017 09:29

Who doesn't love cake? Its a gesture, and a very nice one too.

WhooooAmI24601 · 19/06/2017 09:31

Supra Did you take a cake to a church after the last time a Muslim person did something bad?

If you mean the Manchester bombing or the London Bridge terror attack or the Westminster attack I'd just like to point out that those weren't done by Muslims. Those perpetrators are no more Muslim than I am. They're extremists, not Muslims. Huge, huge difference. The London Bridge men were even denied a Muslim burial; local Imams simply refused because they knew those men hadn't acted in the name of Islam.

It's like when Anders Brevik massacred those young people in the name of Christianity. You're not a Christian if you go around killing folk, just as you're not a Muslim if you go around killing folk. You're just an asshat.

MadisonAvenue · 19/06/2017 09:34

I think it's a lovely idea!

PurpleDragon76 · 19/06/2017 09:35

Do it, lovely idea and shows your daughter a beautifiul example of kindness. Food is given at all times of joy and sorrow. We have had cake at wake's before, I don't think its celebratory.

Syc4moreTrees · 19/06/2017 09:38

I think if you are not local to the affected area it might just appear to be a little odd to be honest. Maybe do it and just leave the cake with a note someplace rather then having a sort of meet and greet thing?

FruitCider · 19/06/2017 09:40

Great idea! In fact I'm going to do the same! A lot of muslims feel worried at the moment, any act of solidarity will be appreciated... and anyway, who doesn't like cake?!?!?

MrsPeelyWaly · 19/06/2017 09:44

There will also be a female section in the Mosque and you may find that when you deliver the cake you'll be greeted by one of the women who attend the Mosque

How lovely

I'm glad you think so.

Foniks · 19/06/2017 09:46

Syc4more I don't think it's odd at all. It's not odd for us all to do things after attacks on the other side of the country normally, this is no different really. An attack on one is an attack on all, whether they be muslim, atheist, Christian or anything else.
I don't even think it'll be a meet and greet thing, will be similar to dropping something off at your local church.

Seaweed42 · 19/06/2017 09:47

This is a comment in general, not about the kind intentions of the OP, which has kindness at its heart.
I think it might be a bit patronising, no? Does it not further single out Muslims as being different?
Nice British white lady bringing a cake to the 'special foreign people' in the mosque down the road. It's not about Muslims, it's about foreigners in general, isn't it? The poor things, they'd love a cake to cheer themselves up.
Sorry that's just what I feel, but I'm Irish and lived in London during the 80s/90s so I know what it feels like to be in a minority where you just aren't wanted and feel it every day.
If an Irish community had been targeted and someone brought a cake I'd be thinking to myself - why don't you go and speak to a local politician instead about your feelings on racism and evidence of it in your community. Or why did you vote Brexit?

WillowWeeping · 19/06/2017 09:50

The OP says for when people have broken their fast

And my post still stands: don't deliver it during the day.

MrsPeelyWaly · 19/06/2017 09:51

I think it might be a bit patronising, no?

No.

MrsPeelyWaly · 19/06/2017 09:53

And my post still stands: don't deliver it during the day.

Willow, there's no need for that all.

Life goes on around food as normal during Ramadan.

FruitCider · 19/06/2017 09:54

Nice British white lady bringing a cake to the 'special foreign people' in the mosque down the road

I'm not british. Or white (well I am, but darker than British). And I'm foreign. So that blows your theory out of the window

Foniks · 19/06/2017 09:55

Some people even work serving food all day while fasting. And others spend lots of time preparing food for family and friends in time for breaking fast.
They'll just put it aside to have when they do break their fast, just like they do with other foods they're breaking their fast with.

PetalHead · 19/06/2017 09:56

The BBC reporting was very even-handed this morning. They reported it exactly like the other recent car/van attacks and said it was being treated as terrorism.

But anyway. After an atrocity along these lines (whether inspired by ISIS or anti-muslim) people do want to reassure each other that in their community they are not taking sides and want to be friendly. It's a noce thing to do and I like the fact that every attack inspires pople to reach out to each other and support each other more.

If you take a cake, it doesn't matter if it's exactly the perfect gift, or even if not everyone there likes cake. It's just a way of saying "I want you to know we care and support you and are not taking any sides in this." Lots of people have done it after previous attacks too.

Acts like that mean saying hello and making links with other people in your community - then maybe you continue to say hello, forge a friendship, look out for each other more etc. And having friendly communities like that where different groups see each other as human and kind and "us" not them, is one of the best ways to prevent radicalisation in the first place.

babyboomersrock · 19/06/2017 09:56

If an Irish community had been targeted and someone brought a cake I'd be thinking to myself - why don't you go and speak to a local politician instead about your feelings on racism and evidence of it in your community

There's no reason why we can't do those things and also give a cake.

In Scotland, it's not unusual to take a cake to houses where there's been a bereavement; it isn't trying to push in, or make it all about ourselves, or look good - it's making a tiny gesture of solidarity in a time of grief.

It's a kind thing to do, OP and I'm sure it'll be accepted in that spirit.

barrygetamoveonplease · 19/06/2017 10:00

Anything that shows love for our fellow human beings is a good thing. I can't imagine who these people are who want to target Muslims - that wasn't the feeling that was around after the Manchester bombing. Whoever does this is trying to undermine the cohesion of the united, mixed, UK community. Cake seems as good a sticking-plaster as anything.
What a loving thought. Do it, ready for when the fast opens this evening.

MrsPeelyWaly · 19/06/2017 10:01

OP, there's no need to not deliver the cake during the day. People break their fast at the Mosque and preperations for it will have gone on for a large part of the day. In fact it's common to see Iftar laid out about half an hour before sunset and people taking their place in front of it as they arrive.

I'm having guests for Iftar tonight and. I've been in the kitchen for two hours. How else are people to eat if they don't prepare food beforehand.

You're thread is now likely to be hijacked by rabble rousers. I'd just leave it and let them get on with it, safe in the knowledge your idea is a lovely one

disastrousflapjack · 19/06/2017 10:04

Anything that is a slap in the face against prejudice and terrorism is worth doing imo, esp at the moment. Every smile and kind act from one religion to another is positive and at the end of the day, all we can do is make little but important features to those around us. I'd not thought of cake being celebratory only. Someone left a cake by the door shortly after.mt Dad died. I've never forgotten how much I appreciated such kindness. Do it op.

disastrousflapjack · 19/06/2017 10:05

Gestures not features!!!

Orlandointhewilderness · 19/06/2017 10:05

Yes it is a lovely gesture. We are all in this together and we have all felt this.

feathermucker · 19/06/2017 10:07

What a lovely idea Grin

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/06/2017 10:09

I think it is a lovely idea. DH and the DS are Muslim and we had cake at Iftar yesterday as it was Father's Day.

Of course you can deliver it during the day, Muslim parents prepare food during the day for their children who are to young to fast. (or in the case of my DH yesterday - take them to McDonalds for a fish burger Wink).

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 19/06/2017 10:10

too young not to young

HopefulNavigator · 19/06/2017 10:11

OP I think its a lovely gesture. Any choice of food would be fine doesnt have to be traditional. A gentle reminder that some red coloured cake decoration stuff might not be suitable, if it has the V sign that should suffice. A kind note will go a long way to foster some reassurance to your neighbours...I know alot of Muslims are very worried about public attacks and abuse now especially women who have been targeted alot the last few weeks.

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