To think that the situation in London could end up with riots?

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The social situation in London following this week's terrible fire is deteriorating fast. On top of the recent disastrous general election, a section of the population feel alienated. Am I being unreasonable to think we could end up with riots?

MAY MUST LEAVE NOW

No, leave May where she is. Let her and her cabinet and poodles justify this atrocity.

Why should anyone else take the reins right now? She called an unnecessary election, she must bite the bullet herself.

Anyway, Brexit talks start on Monday, and that's where media attention will focus in deflection. Timing my dears.

someone just said that the council has cut down on staff so the council has no experienced staff to deal with this.

This is London 21st century.

#Failed State

#Strong & Stable #MayTimeToGo you are NOT a leader you are a disgrace

It is so easy to see how riots happen when people feel they're not listened to or heard.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-london-40239008

live reporting now

Unbelievable how the council is ignoring this.

This whole fucking awful tragedy has been waiting to happen ever since these flats were built. My Grandma lived in a high rise block, she was a pensioner with severe arthritis and later terminal cancer. There were 22 floors. The fire escape was on the first floor. The blocks were badly regulated and poorly maintained. The only thing that has changed over the years is that these towers are in even worse repair due to the negligence and neglect of local authorities.

Whilst I can understand the anger and frustration, I will never understand rioting. It does not solve anything and undermines the legitimate concerns.

Protesters have entered Kensington Town Hall

I tried to RTFT but it had gone toxic so I gave up.
I'm sure we're not calling for a riot, just saying that one could easily kick off given the current circumstances.

I think there will be riots if something is done.

It's the appearance (and reality) of the lack of government outcry! Why isnt there a flood of governemt paid for aid. People needed shelter immediately, people need emotional support now.

Leave people literally devastated and they will quickly turn to anger. There's nothing they can do, there will be no more survivors.

In the middle of London, one of the most powerful cities in the world people are in desperate. But they are poor and poorly represented.

wrt riots:
I'm more worried for millions of people living in high rise blocks without sprinkler systems or modern fir-resistant materials.
They must be scared stiff atm when they go to bed, wondering what they and their kids will wake up to.

If those in power react NOW to show they are serious about improving safety and bringing the guilty to justice, this would head off a crisis in public confidence
e.g. go back and implement the safety regulations that the Tories voted down in 2014 in parliament
Don't obstruct corporate manslaughter charges by claiming it would interfere with the public enquiry

The powerless will riot, if they are sufficiently desperate
The way to head off riots from frightened, angry people is to show you are acting promptly on their concerns.

I think it is easy to say you wouldn't riot. But if I didn't know if my relatives were dead or alive I don't know what I would do. If I thought my niece or sister was dead I would want to start to grieve my loss. I would need to know. It's a human need. It's their right to know

These are grieving people in the midst of grief who are being treated like dirt. Again.
And this could have been prevented.

It's not evening yet and it's a warm night

Sadly I think rioting very likely as groups like Anarchists and extreme left-wing will seize the opportunity, and of course looters will leap into the disorder. Police will be reluctant to appear heavy handed in the circumstances.
I fear for London over the next weeks.

Yes, but where are our dear leaders? Why are they NOT leading? ?

Hiding. Why are they hiding? It's so counterproductive.

Social housing such as this has been unfit for purpose since the 70's - throughout the country and under Labour and Tory governments alike. It has not suddenly become dire due to the recent austerity measures fgs! I was a social worker under Blair's Labour government. The lifts in towers blocks were often out of service, so you couldn't even access people without walking up 20 flights of stairs. There was damp, poor heating and the blocks were unfit for purpose then - and long before that. These housing blocks were no better under Labour - and this was before the so-called immigration "crisis". It's ridiculous to blame a particular administration for the state of social housing. It's a long term problem and will require long term investment.

Right and straight away accusations of anarchists (not many of them) etc

Look at the pictures. This was predictable and preventable. Let's focus on that.

This should be dealt with now. They need information now. They need to be treated like human beings now

As Soda said above - it will not be the bereaved and the grieving who riot. It will be others working under their own agendas imo.

People with assets and a reasonable future are very unlikely to riot.
They don't want a criminal conviction, fines, a ruined career
They think they will be able to cope if things go wrong in their life

Some of them can't see that when other people have nothing to lose, no possessions or career, then they will riot, when they have no other power to save themselves

"They need to be treated like human beings now"

^ This

Those angry people in the town hall are the community, the bereaved, the homeless, those missing loved ones - so probably bereaved too

Embarassing as it is for those whose penny-pinching caused this tragedy, when you ruin peoples' lives they get very angry at you.

Yes Big and they have every right to be angry.

I think the trouble with "riot" is that it includes both the angry destruction of people with a "reason" and the opportunists who want to steal trainers.

I would guess that relatives generally could come in the first group but not in the second?

Some people have gone to 7 hospitals. One after the other to find their loved ones. And still haven't been told they are dead

It is disgusting