To think that the situation in London could end up with riots?

[Twoonatandem]

The social situation in London following this week's terrible fire is deteriorating fast. On top of the recent disastrous general election, a section of the population feel alienated. Am I being unreasonable to think we could end up with riots?

If you view my offhand comment as an actual credible threat of violence (and one that could potentially be carried out), then I kindly suggest you seek medical help for your paranoia.

OP I completely agree with you, I am very worried that this could boil over into violence. There are, quite rightly, some very angry people and the media are doing nothing to help it. I said as much to my mum last night!

"People have died and lost their families and children and you think their thinking about stealing trainers from footlocker right now? Disgusting."

What I described is what happened in the 2011 London riots which were triggered when police (quite justifiably) shot and killed north London drug lord Mark Duggan. I'm sorry that some posters here find reality disgusting. Unfortunately, it's a reality that those of us who lived in London in 2011 had to deal with.

Confused which user is talking now? Both full of anti immigrant bile so I got lost

YANBU.

And we have a hot midsummer weekend coming up.

How do you know I didn't live in London in 2011? You don't. You are making yourself look ridiculous.

"So you have seen that 34 of them were immigrants? Why did you feel the need to count? Isn't there as many as 600 people living there , 34 is hardly a majority"

34 out of the 36 I saw mentioned is quite clearly a very big majority. Honestly, everyone who's read the newspapers and looked at the news reports knows that the vast majority of people living in Grenfell Tower were immigrants. I don't understand why people like you think that you can get people to believe otherwise.

Are people actually jealous of people who escaped war zones to come to the country to be put on the 23rd floor of a death trap so unsightly it had to be covered with flammable cladding to make it palatable to look at, where you could live up 23 flights of stairs and the lifts didn't always work, where you were never listened to, despised, treated with disdain and left to burn? Are we jealous of those people? Because I can tell you, maybe I do pay "full market rent" for my house but I'm not in a hurry to swap with someone on the top floor of one of those other blocks, desirable postcode or not.

Someone else further up the thread was spot on. Don't feed it! Hopefully it will then disappear like the wicked witch of the west did when she had water thrown on her.

I've also had a lot of comments about where is the money going to come from for all of the refurbishment of this block - not from those who were living in it - and about how it's unreasonable for people to immigrant to the U.K. and live on permanent housing subsidies from U.K. taxpayers.

Yes, we all know that immigrants aren't UK taxpayers. Oh wait.

The safety net in this country exists for all those who are legally entitled to be here permanently.

User I have reported you.

Yy fifth!

"User I have reported you." For what - disagreeing with you?

@Toysaurus

If you have to be resident for minimum two years before being eligible for housing assistance then what about people who are homeless and aren't able to reside anywhere for that length of time? Surely there must be exceptions to this criteria?

Also, please re-read my two comments, I definitely didn't suggest immigrants were getting priority, I was suggesting a possibility reason they might be more likely to fit the criteria than people born in the UK on average, because most (but obviously not all) people born in this country have a certain amount of privilege relative to the population worldwide, because this is a very developed country, not experiencing war, famine, natural disasters etc.

council housing has been colonised by immigrants.

Are you actually fucking kidding me. What a dreadful thing to say. And don't hide behind a User834528375t8374917349374923 user name while you do it. Piss off to a BNP forum instead.

Whoever said up thread that riots are about destruction of property - yes, a lot of which is also people's homes and also life was lost in 2011. I fully support protests but god forbid it turns into civil unrest again.

I have multiple times. And I know mn are here as my apparently "credible violent threat" has been deleted

Honestly, everyone who's read the newspapers and looked at the news reports knows that the vast majority of people living in Grenfell Tower were immigrants.

How do you know they were immigrants? How? Because they weren't called John Smith and Sarah Jones?

Beyond you reported the effluent and they are letting it stay?

I don't care where they where born, what creed, colour or orientation they had. No one deserves to live in a tower so flamable it looked like a fucking torch.

I am glad there will be inquiries, investigations and inquests. Although, I am less confident about any prosecutions or concrete changes. The arse covering has already started.

As you're a regular user of mn I'm sure, you'll be aware of the rule of "making parents lives easier". Racist and classist jibes about dead immigrants and children do not do that.

Thoughts are with the families effected.

Riots will achieve nothing but cause more damage and exasperate an already tense situation.

It has been suggested by a certain politician that empty houses should be taken over and given to the homeless.

If that were to happen, lawyers would have a field day and the absent owners would possibly win as due legal process was not followed.

IMHO the tragic events are being used by politicians to score points.

It might be good as a sound bite in the media but I am appalled by it.

People will be found homes, it will take time as will finding out what went wrong.

If you can look at that building burning and think "you know, the biggest problem with social housing in this country is that there are too many immigrants in it" you should be ashamed of yourself. Take the fascist apologism elsewhere - people have died, we don't need the far-right oozing out from under their rocks to whine that they weren't white and British enough.