To hate Lily Allen

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I can't stand her. Always popping up somewhere that she's not required to put her 2 cents in. It's like her music is so shit and unpopular she's decided to just stick her oar in wherever she can now. I've never disliked anyone this strongly before (that I've never met!)

Extremely odd response to horrific incident - starting a thread saying you "hate" a pop star who comments on it.

There is no evidence the local authority have any kind of handle on this.

The people that lived there deserve our acknowledgement of their existence regardless of their 'fluidity' or whether they privately rented. It should not take weeks and months to determine who was there. I is cruel to the families and community to not be open and transparent

handbag but who knows how many people were there? If they were subletting, there is no way to know.

Thats why the word 'estimate' would be helpful

I dont think anyone is suggesting that exact names are needed

rufus who would it help? It's not hard to work out an estimate.

Failing to produce a reasonable estimate of possible victims because some flats may have been sublet or be on air bnb is not good enough. If an estimate needs to be slightly revised because of subletting in the future then it can and it can be addressed. Why is worrying about accuracy around whether people sublet or not something so concerning right now?

handbag after 9/11 there was no number for weeks. After most terrorist attacks.

I genuinely don't remember anyone after 9/11 saying it wasn't possible to make any kind of estimate of potential victims because some people might have been in the World Trade Center and have not signed in or be on official employee lists.

How hard is it say it is estimated that x number of residents have not yet been accounted for. Please get in touch if you live there and were elsewhere and not accounted for.

They have said that handbag!!! I've seen them say it every single day.

YANBU OP, she is a massive pain.

Wow. Some posters seem very heavily invested in their dislike of Lily Allen.

Downright weird.

It is a thread about Lily Allen, so people will likely discuss her.

HandbagKrabby

I've seen estimates of number of victims. What media are you watching/reading?

The police chief said three days ago that he hoped that the number of dead would not be in triple figures (thereby suggesting it might be)

For me, in my semi in the suburbs this seemed perfectly reasonable, but I can imagine if you are waiting to find out if your family are dead, then this is no help. Yet they don't have accurate figures yet- and why should they guess?

Otoh, the whole thing is an utter fiasco, from start to finish, there's clearly a lack of leadership, and a rightful anger about it all. Lily Allen might have focussed on numbers but any sympathetic interpretation would understand that she is trying to plead for more help and a more humane approach than there has been so far.

More than 70 still missing and 30 dead in Grenfell Tower fire

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/at-least-30-dead-in-grenfell-tower-fire-say-police

What do you think the missing are likely to be?

To not acknowledge they lived there is horrific. It's inhumane

What's the point in giving a full account of everyone who lived there? That's a waste of time imo. If you have relatives or a next of kin they'll know where you lived. If you didn't then unfortunately no one will know your name anyway. Joe public don't need to know until the death toll is confirmed. I can't seem to stress enough that speculation from anyone doesn't help. How long after 9/11 were people rescued who were still alive buried under rubble. I personally prefer not having a made up death toll thrown about.

...Or a cynical interpretation would say she is popping herself back in the limelight because she is increasingly irrelevant. (I am not saying that is the case)
Didn't see Adele or Rita ora doing to interviews, just helping out, because they have the sense to realise this is not about them. Fwiw I don't hate Lily Allen, I just think she's a crass idiot. I don't doubt she has a kind heart, and probably the best intentions, but putting herself, a pop star, front and centre in this dreadful tragedy is not appropriate.

Just reading an article in the Guardian about what had been done for residents in surrounding buildings -and it is shocking.

Two days after, some are still waking around in their pyjamas. Some people slept on the grass outside their buildings.

Local authority saying people are likely to be housed outside the borough

The full magnitude of this tragedy had completely passed me by until a has been pop star started tweeting about it, I am so grateful. It will make such a difference.

Anyone who tweets or speaks out about how a community has been disgustingly let down should be hated as a crass and pointless person and treated as an enemy of the state.

histinyhandsarefrozen it would appear so.

I find it interesting that just about anyone who shows compassion these days is called a 'leftie'. I don't get why that is.

This. Add "virtue signalling" to this list. Tired statements thrown around in absence of any real contribution or debate.

I have never liked her music, and her making a fuss seemingly to get an opportunity to make her views known hasn't changed that.

Plenty of so called celebrities I like less.

How a community has been disgustingly let down

I am so grateful to her for making this original and persuasive point. We need MORE cleb has-beens to take to Twitter to make this clear. This a unique and essential duty they are serving during a very difficult times.

She can tweet whatever she likes.

I'm more surprised at people who give her any importance, both criticising her and taking her as a beacon of reason.

Loads of people have tweeted about what happened. Why pick up Lily out of all of them?