To remind you of the protest march in London on July 1st?

[explodingkittens]

People's Assembly

For those of us who are sick and tired and angry and devastated.

www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget

I'm afraid posting a graph of the overall budget doesn't prove

A full budgetary process would involve looking at costs (including uplift due to decrease in sterling. Increase need. Increase numbers. Increase age of people bring treated. Cost of bed blocking ). Oh and inflation!

Being that the overall budgets have not changed significantly does not prove they should not and therefore cuts have not happened . Over time all budgets increase always. If they aren't you are cutting. It's called real term funding

Take a look at this
touchstoneblog.org.uk/2016/10/record-investment-nhs-funding-crisis-stats-behind-theresa-mays-spending-boast/

Here's the same for teaching

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/27/schools-to-be-hit-with-first-real-time-funding-cuts-in-20-years

Kings fund that you cited is RW think tank that proposes part privatisation of the NHS including:

Kings Fund’s ideas include:

·Over 60s (except those on pension credit) to pay for prescriptions - £1.5bn

·Increase the qualifying age to 65 - £value unknown

·Raise the prescription charge to £10 - £100m.

·Or remove all prescription exemptions and charge £2.45 to all - £2bn

·Charge to visit the GP from £5-25 - £3 billion

·Charging to attend A&E £10 - £220 million

·Charge £10 for outpatient attendance - £800m

·Charge £10 for each day in hospital - £500m

·Charge £50 for each hospital 'procedure' - £900

From the report:

Though NHS funding is continuing to grow, the rate of growth is slowing considerably compared to historical trends. The Department of Health budget will grow by 1.1 per cent in real terms between 2009/10 and 2020/21. This is far below the long-term average increases in health spending of approximately 4 per cent a year (in real terms) since the NHS was established.

It's in reality a funding freeze. Just when services need more.

Terrible Tory Austerity. Causing pain and suffering. Backwards looking.

you are really not helping your cause

Doing ok in my book. Speaking truth.

Cheers make

The facts are there.

See you at the march!

May and her fascist Irish buddies are stuffed

It's not always what you spend in total - but what you spend it on.
It was only when funding became tighter efficiencies are looked at.

No it is what you spend in total. Inflation and value of sterling will always be increase spending.

Otherwise I could go and buy my shopping today and get the same amounting provisions for the same price as I did 10 years ago. Basic economics

Hmm.
more money in equals better care is very simplistic.

you assume that people naturally work towards an efficient way of doing. They don't.

Does anyone know the march route today?

No Head I assume budgets should be real terms at the minimum. Plus adjustments ti requirements

It's standard budgeting process. We aren't taking quality of care here. But if you are then there is a very simplistic way of looking at it. Cutting resources and maintaining the same or increased workload or need is increasing pressure on reduced resources. Therefore reduced quality

The only exception to this generally is where a wide ranging 're engineering has taken place and adjustments made to processes and systems. Then you can reduce costs. That takes years to get to the cost reductions. That is not what is happening under austerity. It is a top line cut. A slash and burn

Congratulations Day of Rage marchers. People arrested and a complete waste of the police force's time.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/day-rage-protest-live-updates-10658367

Want to read the thread title der

It's JULY 1ST

Nothing to do with today. It shall we take responsibility for the EDL violence last week as well

Nice try

My mistake but I hope your march is peaceful. I hope you think it will be too.

Ofcourse I donand I'm sure it will.

The one today was SWP. They are truely awful. As I said before would never have anything to do with them. They are always looking for trouble and have been accused of ignoring rape within their groups

Some people marching today had lost people on the fire. So you'd forgive them foe having rage.

A lot of Grenfell residents are reported as asking people not to join today's protest.

I go on protests. I would never condone a violent protest. It does nobody any good. Quite the opposite. However today's trouble has nothing to do with the 1St July.

So you think you have some kind of monopoly on who comes to your town I suppose? Isn't that where most of the daily politics stuff is debated and rolled out? I am from Shepherds Bush, Latimer Road in London and near Grenfell. I grew up round there and I know that 'most Londoners' do want this. They want it very much. That's why most of the London boroughs are LABOUR - including KENSINGTON & CHELSEA and Islington where our man Jeremy serves his constituents. Don't you realise are trying to make a better world? What kind of world are you viewing right now?! I know the kind of world I would like for my children.

Some londoners want this, some don't. Thank God we live in a democracy where we have the right to protest.

People living here worry that the protest will be attended by those looking to riot, goad police, damage property. And sadly this does happen.

There are protests most (every?) weekends now. Very few of them make the news because they pass off peacefully and don't fit the story of the day.

The People's Assembly marches are as safe as any march can be. They have large numbers of well briefed stewards. They also attract a good cross section of the public including families with babies and elderly people, which inherently acts as a brake on trouble. There are marches that I tend to be a little wary of, this is not one of them.

£1 billion of our money to the DUP!! Enough for 20,000 police officers.

Cuts to fire services and councils led to the disaster at Greenfell – and that's just one of the hundreds of towers with flammable cladding. As if this wasn't bad enough, we get lies about the cuts. May told voters and still telling Parliament they're protecting the police budget, especially for counter-terrorism. Police last week told different story of planned 7% cut in counter-terror funding – see goo.gl/5GMqeE

Just bare faced lies from the lot of them

I’ll be there on 1st. Hopefully we’ll get rid of this Government the same way Iceland forced theirs to resign

£1 billion of our money to the DUP!! Enough for 20,000 police officers

No, £1 billion to Northern Ireland, but I'm sure you know that.

And I do think blaming Grenfell entirely on the Tories is looking a bit unfact-based, what with the cladding starting to be put on towers under a Labour government and in Labour boroughs as well as Tory.

And the ending of fire inspections by the Fire Brigade happened under Labour.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/28/grenfell-tower-fire-was-tory-austerity-to-blame-or-do-problems-date-back-to-blair

In particular, she (TM) pinpointed the 2005 regulatory reform (fire safety) order introduced under Blair’s government that shifted the responsibility for fire inspection from the fire brigade to the local council. She claimed it had “ended the practice of routine fire inspections"

janet
£1 billion of our money to the DUP!! Enough for 20,000 police officers.
so with each police officer costing £50K at least PER YEAR
how will you pay for these 20,000 next year and the year after?
Of course it is not the DUP getting the money - it is a promise to NI for infrastructure etc who by the way are taxpayers too.
I assume you are a high rate taxpayer since you assert it is 'our money'
Why is it all about LONDON - the day of rage tried to 'shut down London and get rid of the legiutimate government' so to their tiny minds London = the whole of the UK. No it doesn't - millions of people live in the rest of the country, voted for the Conservatives, pay their taxes and despise the actions of the violent lefties who call themselves so liberal.