to say NO to newly qualified driver taking dd and friends out for the day?

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dd (17) has a friend who is taking his driving test today. She says if he passes he is driving them (three teens) to the beach (approx 1 hours drive away) on Sunday.

AIBU to say absolutely no way??

Haven't read through the whole thread but I hope someone has put up the link for teenage driver accidents and deaths.

Over 4 teens killed and injured every week. Over 200 a year.

simple enough to restrict new teenage drivers as they do in other countries for a year after passing their test.

No passengers except relatives
50 speed limit
Night time curfew

This won't stop the drinkers,the show offs and the reckless. Unfortunately nothing will. But it will mean that other young drivers have time to develop their road skills, road sense and not be pressured into situations they can't deal with.

It's all getting a bit heated, but YANBU OP.

The single Biggest killer of teenaged girls is teenaged boys. In RTAs.

The UK is very odd in the way it treats newly qualified drivers.

In lots of other countries there is a requirement to have a prominent P plate equivalent for a year after passing a driving test. There are restrictions on when they can be on the roads (basically not in the dark). There are restrictions about who else can be in the car (eg no non-family members under the age of 18). They get taught to drive on motorways / highways.

It's so odd how we just let young drivers get on with it

x-post with viques (it took me a really long time to finish my post!)

I know the moment has gone now, OP but for the future I think the question you need to be asking is would your DD be able to say 'stop the car and let me out' or not get in in the first place if she considers her friend's driving (male or female) to be dangerous or the driver to be impaired in some way (drink or drugs). If she can do that, your worries should be lessened although they never fully go away.

I am neither happy or unhappy that he passed his test, I barely know him, and if it's not him it will be someone else (driving dd around).
I don't think it's that big a deal to fail a driving test, certainly don't think it's 'horrible' to be relieved that he failed! He'll pass another time. I agree the sense of entitlement about sons on this thread has been an eye opener!!

Her gf is coming to pick her up tomorrow nd driving back to her house. She's been driving for a good 6 months, is very sensible and it will be just the two of them. I am not worried.

Sorry OP,I got confused,I thought it was your day taking the test! My previous posts won't make much sense now.

Who's happy that someone failed their test?
I know
agree the sense of entitlement about sons on this thread has been an eye opener!!
Entitlement? Nope, just think you were wrong to assume this guy was going to drink and drive, and piss around just because he was a young driver, so did many others
I don't have a son so no ' son entitlement' here

Two girls and lads went out in the car when
One of them just passed his test, two people died, the driver has had to live with that for 30 years

Does NI not still have "P" plates? You are restricted to 45mph for first year after passing and have to display a P sign in your window.

I wouldn't have allowed it either.

This whole thing stacks up to being quite high risk:
Young, male, new driver
Overconfident (driving friends over an hour shortly after passing test doesn't suggest caution)
Lots of friends to show off to

Not age or sexism. Plenty of info here:
www.brake.org.uk/news/15-facts-a-resources/facts/488-young-drivers-the-hard-facts

I have two sons. They'll have their driving lessons/tests and insurance paid provided they follow some rules in keeping with the data and advice on that site -like no passengers for first 6 months.