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AIBU?

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Neighbour borrowing nanny - AIBU?

184 replies

RNBrie · 14/06/2017 07:47

We had an au pair last year who was brilliant and would babysit for neighbours regularly. One neighbour used her a lot and had her doing regular childcare on the days we didn't need her. It got a bit awkward after a while as neighbour would ask au pair to mind her child when au pair was looking after mine (usually after school, could au pair pick up hers too and take her child to play ground and return her home at tea time). Sometimes she offered to pay her and sometimes not. It then got to the stage where au pair was collecting neighbour's child from school every day. I did step in at this point and tried to put a stop to it, but neighbour had a lot of "emergencies" and au pair really struggled to say no.

I am now back at work after dc3 and we have hired a nanny. Nanny's second day was yesterday. I came home from work a bit early so called nanny to find out where they were and met them in the park. Nanny had neighbours child with her. Nanny said neighbour had asked her to watch her child as she had to pop to the shops for 5 mins. That was 45 mins ago. Neighbour then turned up with a takeaway coffee and a couple of bags of shopping.

I am pissed off. Nanny is a lot more expensive than au pair and should be watching my three dc in the park, not someone else's dc. AIBU?!?

But... I can also see neighbour's point of view - they were in the park anyway. She doesn't have anyone to help with childcare. She is trying to set up her own business. Women should help other women etc.

I have told nanny that she should say no if asked again. But I am aware of how hard it is to say no to neighbour. So I think I need to speak to neighbour. But what do I say?!? I won't see her today as I am at work but I will tomorrow. Should I text today instead?

She took my nanny's number as she left the playground and I assume she plans on using her for babysitting.

My dc are 5, 3 and 1. Her dc is 5 and she also has a 13 year old.

OP posts:
shuangnick · 14/06/2017 10:03

as for "woman should help each other out", that doesn't make anything wrong. but it doesn't means someone can use your stuff without ur permission. It's totally not a proper way that ur neighbour ask ur nanny for help instead of u. So before the next time ur neighbour turn to ur nanny's help, just let her tell u neighbour to ask for your permission. than u can decide whether to help her or not, and if help, how to reach a solution that is compatible for both of you.

DeadGood · 14/06/2017 10:04

Excellent result OP!

sunshinesupermum · 14/06/2017 10:04

Looking after 3 young children is more than enough for one person on their own so DN was being thoughtless at the very least. Glad it's sorted now. Well done!

NataliaOsipova · 14/06/2017 10:08

I think you handled it well, OP - firmly but diplomatically. She should have got the message (and understood that you're cross), but with no need for any awkwardness if you bump into her in the street.

Women should help other women? Indeed they should. If she'd phoned you and said, say, "I need to take the 13 year old to A&E as he's bleeding profusely - is there any way I could ask your nanny to mind my 5 year old until DH can get back from the place he is now leaving immediately to pick her up", then, yes, you'd have been a bit rotten to say no. But "popping to the shops"? You take your own child with you if you haven't organised your own childcare.

OVienna · 14/06/2017 10:23

That woman's a cow and I'm sure she will try it on again. I also would have been firmer in my original text. But it's done now - you'd be well within your rights to go in guns blazing if it happens again.

Floggingmolly · 14/06/2017 10:25

Your nanny works for you; she should not be finding it difficult to say no to other people randomly trying to foist their children on her...
What exactly does she find difficult? I'd be livid if someone I employed to take care of my children was such a pushover.
At the very least she should know to run it by you first before accepting charge of any other children. Time to get tough.
And the other mum having no childcare is a red herring. You wouldn't have either, if you hadn't bought it in...

liminality · 14/06/2017 10:30

I just wanted to say kudos to you OP for not crumbling under the weight of the angry AIBU ranters and keeping it civil - and look, it worked even!

Good on you :)

JakeBallardswife · 14/06/2017 10:38

Well done, your neighbour seems to have got the message too.

Willow2017 · 14/06/2017 10:42

Good result but just make sure Nanny goes to a different park for a while just to ram home the point. I have a feeling NDN might just rock up to park and then vanish leaving her kid with Nanny whether she likes it or not. She sounds capable of anything to get free childcare.

PaulDacresFeministConscience · 14/06/2017 10:46

I thought the text was fine.

This is OP's neighbour and understandably she doesn't want to fall out with her. She got her message across whilst still being nice about it.

Just because a load of keyboard warriors wanted the OP to go in all guns blazing, doesn't mean it was the best course of action. As neighbour has now texted back and said that she understands, presumably it's all been resolved without the mud-slinging that people were agitating for?

Inertia · 14/06/2017 10:47

Neighbour seems to have got the message, which is a good start.

Probably worth going over a standard response with your nanny just in case any other local parents try the same thing- one of the lines suggested above would work, where she can say that her employer does not allow her to look after other children.

ssd · 14/06/2017 10:59

something tells me this woman will do this again, no matter what her text said

your nanny will soon get sick of this and she might be put off her job if this happens, another reason for you to stick to your guns

mayoli · 14/06/2017 11:21

Just want to give my two cents as a nanny.

I think, if it was my second day on a new job, I would have done the same. Purely because I don't know the neighbour, you get weird folk creating feuds over this and I would worry about my boss having difficult neighbour issues and it being my fault. I think you probably should have told your nanny about the au pair exploitation situation because the nanny would have felt more confident saying no.

Text was fine though. Hopefully the NDN doesn't try it again!

GlitteryFluff · 14/06/2017 11:31

Sounds like it could all end happily op.

notknownatthisaddress · 14/06/2017 11:43

Text her today! 'I understand you are using the nanny I employ as ad hoc childcare and that you have even requested her mobile number. I have made it clear to her that she is not to provide childcare for you whilst carrying out her duties as our nanny, even if she is going someone with my children. No 'I'll just be 5 minutes', 'I'm just popping to the shops' or 'emergencies'. Sadly we had this issue come up when we had an au pair and frankly I am tired of being used to provide free childcare to you. It's unfortunate it's come to this, but I feel so taken advantage of I can't see any other way, Best of luck in your endeavours.'

THIS by expat.

But put it in writing, pen and paper, and keep a copy yourself.

What the fuck OP? Why are you tolerating this. I am not hugely confrontational and don't like bother (esp with neighbours) and I do tolerate a lot of shit before losing it. But this is ridiculous and I would not put up with it. Tell her it is not on. And FGS tell the aupair/nanny too! Hmm

If you don't tell this woman to quit it, then I have no sympathy for you sorry.

The neighbour is a cheeky twunt!

Yokohamajojo · 14/06/2017 11:56

Wow that is so cheeky! I have a mum in my DCs class who I think has gone through the entire class with her 'emergencies' until everyone cottoned on and realised that she came back with shopping, new hair, new nails etc. Also always, I pick her up at 4 and then came at 6...Some people just don't have any shame

PersianCatLady · 14/06/2017 11:59

Sorry but I haven't read the whole thread yet.

If I saw you were getting a taxi to town and I decided to jump in your taxi for a lift without asking and offering to pay half of the fare, I would be taking the piss.

Why is your neighbour using your nanny any different??

WhatchaMaCalllit · 14/06/2017 12:07

That's a great analogy there Persian and one that the OP can use if the neighbour starts getting a bit tetchy about things.

fruitbrewhaha · 14/06/2017 12:20

Why not phone her today rather than text? You can write down what you want to say and then make it brief, less likely to flair up and get cross.

PersianCatLady · 14/06/2017 12:29

That's a great analogy there Persian and one that the OP can use if the neighbour starts getting a bit tetchy about things
Thanks.

I just can't believe that some people (neighbour) are blatant pisstakers and yet the OP is worried about hurting the pisstaker's feelings.

SoupDragon · 14/06/2017 12:34

Why not phone her today rather than text?

Because she texted her this morning and has already had a satisfactory reply?

namechangeforholiday · 14/06/2017 19:18

Well done OP. Just make sure your Nanny also feels she can say no just incase the neighbour goes back on what she says!

Rainbunny · 14/06/2017 19:25

I'd tell your nanny to say the following the next time the neighbour asks:

"I'm sorry but my employer has expressly forbidden me to look after other children when I'm working. She's angry that I have been asked to take care of other children so I really can't anymore."

That way the nanny doesn't have to feel put on the spot or bad about saying no because it's your express instructions and trust me, the neighbour won't have the nerve to ask you directly! If she did, surely you can be honest and say that you are tired of subsidising her childcare and it won't be happening anymore.

Rainbunny · 14/06/2017 19:29

Oh sorry OP, just read that you've sorted it. Good job!

Although I'd still coach the nanny on what to say when the neighbour asks another time...which something tells me she will! There's always something that comes up or an "emergency" with some people...

MuncheysMummy · 14/06/2017 21:32

I'd also say to your neighbour that she owes you £XYZ towards nannys wages to date seeing as she's been using her services too! Also that it's stops from now forwards,she needs to find (and pay for!) her own nanny if she needs the services of one! Cheeky mare

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