To be delighted that SNP have lost seats!

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With only 39%ish of the vote how can Sturgeon claim to have a mandate for indyref2 now.

Please no more elections!

Things changed so much after Brexit that the SNP lost 40% of their seats and 500000 votes.

I think the point Queen is that some voters voted tactically to get rid of the SNP and would never have personally wanted the conservatives to win the election. I would be more cross at an anti-Tory-but-tactical-voter getting the tories in than one who really believed in the party.

They were all adults that voted so maybe they got the result they wanted. The SNP need to start owning their fuck ups and stop blaming everyone else.

But Lass not being able to reverse current legislation isn't the same as "not being able to affect UK policy". My concerns are future policy.

People are entitled to vote for who they choose, of course they are. I think that as with those voters who only voted Trump because they hated Clinton, many of the Scottish tactical Tory voters will come to regret yesterday's decision.

At the end of the day, The Tories did badly all round. Even the fact that they took SNP seats was down only to a protest vote against the referendum. They did not win due to Tory policies. Ruth Davidson could not answer one question about her parties policies which is why she hid behind the INDyref 2 campaign. She has hijacked the unionist vote from labour and has caused a train crash just before the Brexit process. Its a sad day for democracy when you have to rely on your bitter political rivals to get you over the line.

...and another dimension to all of this

Ruth Davidson distances herself from DUP deal by tweeting a link to her gay pride lecture

Well you reep what you sow.

If the irresponsible rush for a indyref2 had not been insisted on by Sturgeon AND Corbyn had been crystal clear that he recognised repetitious recourse to democracy is not a way to run a stable country (Neverendum), then the Conservatives could not have gained any traction!

Corbyn blew it as far as I'm concerned with his wishy washy attitude to this and his undermining of Kezia Dugdale. I don't believe for a minute he would co-operate in a Better Together campaign.

Everyone is to blame apparently apart from these 2.

The SNP need to start owning their fuck ups and stop blaming everyone else

Yes. Although I suppose there people like me who are implaccably opposed to independence so nothing they could do or say would change my mind.

I'm ecstatic abut the result. Holyrood was seriously missing some balance and opposition to the SNP. All that power had gone to their head

This election doesn't have any impact on Holyrood.

I am quite baffled as to what is wrong with some people in Scotland wanting to have direct control over there elected representatives and government . But those people can be happy now that we have British Nationalism and unionism to the max because that will be so much better.

It was an election for Westminster

I'm surprised that I haven't seen more criticism of Kezia Dugdale.

This was a prime opportunity for Scottish Labour to gain some ground and they didn't grasp it.

I think Kezia did really well. Corbyn has been nothing but a mill stone round her neck. He was utterly useless in Remain , utterly useless at most things other than barnstorming to Momentum.

He undermined her position several times. He had a spark of life in the last 2 weeks but up until then he was no help to her.

So unionism is more important an issue than Brexit, War, misogyny, weapon sales, homophobia, abortion rights, Trident, creationism being taught in schools, low corporation tax but charity funded food banks, the NHS and University education being free at point of use etc etc.

Sort of rhythm to that, you could beat a drum to it, I guess.

I like kezia.

The "reap what you sow" quote can surely be applied to the SNP.

When they promote Nationalism then they unleash tribal politics rather than a politics dedicated to mending the fabric of day to day life.

They are not progressive; it's delusional thinking imo.

One further point on SNP using brexit vote as a reason for an Indyref2: polling after brexit vote seemed to show Scots voters not so enamoured of EU after all.

Taken with the relatively lower turnout in Scotland at Brexit vote, I took it that the remain vote here and lack of pro brexit surge among habitual non voters, was to PREVENT an Indyref2.

Sturgeon didn't see that.

I like Kezia too. She comes across as warm, likeable and committed. She appears to listen to people. She is more of a centrist Labour politician rather than the hard left of Corbyn and the rest of them. Also on that interview she did with Gary Tank Commander before the Scottish parliament election it was clear that she doesn't take herself too seriously - she would be good fun on a night out. Corbyn wouldn't.

It does make me laugh the SNP minions postulating about why people voted for parties other than theirs. Everyone will have their own reasons. Maybe some did vote Conservative as a protest against IndyRef2 but that's up to them. Maybe those voters are smart enough to realise that any government is not forever and we'll get another chance to vote and have a change in a few years. Maybe others were voting on the SNP domestic record, which is piss poor. Maybe others wanted to wipe the smug smile off Salmond's face. Swings and roundabouts. Independence though would be forever and there's no coming back from it. Lots of people (me included) are pretty fatigued with endless elections and referendums and really don't want a re-run of the nastiness of 2014.

I think Sturgeon failed to see that the people who voted to remain in the EU were in many cases the same people who voted to stay in the UK because they were worried about the jobs homes and pensions.

She also failed to realise that a lot of the people who voted for Independence did so because they were Scottish Nationalist's who don't want to swap being a part of one political union with being an even smaller part of a larger political union. A larger political union that is lets face it being slowly conquered by Islam.

It does make me laugh the SNP minions postulating about why people voted for parties other than theirs. Everyone will have their own reasons

And the majority of which will of course be misguided or flawed. I like Kezia- I don't like Corbyn. I don't like the direction Corbyn is taking the Labour Party and after over 4 decades supporting Labour I have now parted company with them.

Agreed Lass - I have voted Labour in the past during a time when they occupied more of the centre ground. Their lurch to the left means I will no longer do that. In my area I'm lucky that we have a strong Lib Dem candidate who ousted the SNP.

Had I lived in the north east or East Ren I would definitely have voted Conservative to get SNP out. I like Ruth Davidson a lot more than Theresa May too.

why vote conservative to get SNP out, you only vote conservative to get the conservatives in, surely?

It got theresa and DUP in though. Nice one

why vote conservative to get SNP out, you only vote conservative to get the conservatives in, surely?

Do you live in Scotland? That is a serious question? You seem to have a complete blind spot about just how much the SNP are disliked.

Theresa and DUP might not make it past next week.

The union will only be broken up once.

And they night male it past next week and then people dont have a choice about being stuck with them