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To be delighted that SNP have lost seats!

186 replies

imisschocolate · 09/06/2017 08:13

With only 39%ish of the vote how can Sturgeon claim to have a mandate for indyref2 now.

Please no more elections!

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GruffaloPants · 09/06/2017 13:00

Disappointing that people voted Tory instead of Labour if they don't want SNP, no doubt the car crash that is Scottish Labour, especially Kezia Dugdale, had a role to play. Ruth Davidson is all very jolly, but at the end of the day she'll stand by the worst Tory policies.

SNP still had a good showing, just not the unprecedented one of two years ago.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:09

But it hasn't kept the SNP out. It has cemented a Conservative victory. Great, potentially another 5 years of cuts and austerity

And who is to blame for that ? Sturgeon is one who can't see past independence. There is a huge difference between doing the best for the part of northern Britain called Scotland and raving about freedom to the exclusion of all else.

If you support the Conservative policies then fine, you should vote for them. But voting for them because you don't want another referendum (in which you can vote NO) is moronic and bloody dangerous. Your vote is valuable, it counts. Don't be so cavalier with it

You have no right whatsoever to tell anyone what to do with their vote. I happen to think independence is moronic and bloody dangerous and as it is the only point of the SNP why should I not vote to their detriment?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:11

The SNP have destroyed our education system from primary schools to universities.

Yes I wonder why an Edinburgh state primary school is involved in a corporate responsibility scheme with paired read

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:12

Paired reading scheme with a business ?

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 09/06/2017 13:15

Aye, gloating about SNP losses when we're about to spend 5 years under a coalition of right wing snobs who haven't a fucking clue what they're doing and a party who hate women, gay people and anyone else who dares disagree and are further right wing than the BNP. So you all managed to cut the number of SNP seats, fine. Talk about a one track fucking mind because that's what the SNP is constantly accused of, because in your haste to gloat and stop the rise of the SNP, the UK has just been handed to the most hardline, intolerant, bigoted, elitist, misogynistic, homophobic group of people I could ever think of. but as long as you got your little point across it's all ok eh?

MorrisZapp · 09/06/2017 13:15

Blimey. What happened to 'if you don't want another indyref then why did you vote for a pro indy party?' Which way do the Nats want it? Is a pro indy party vote a vote endorsing another referendum or isn't it?

MorrisZapp · 09/06/2017 13:18

SaorAlba if your lot of one track minders had voted for Corbyn he'd be in talks now to form an anti austerity Westminster government. But no, you had to get your point across.

hellobonjour · 09/06/2017 13:23

saor

When you refer to anyone with a differing opinion to you as having a "little point" to get across you embody all that I hate about the SNP. Ignorant, small minded and hell Ben the on a cause we clearly don't want. Imagine anyone having the audacity not to vote for your party of choice. Did it EVER occur to you that perhaps if Nicola had agreed a second referendum was not in Scotland's interest and agreed to call a halt to it then more people would have voted for her? Thus reducing the amount of Tory seats in Scotland. If the 13 seats had been reduced to say 2 then the DUP still wouldn't have been able to prop the tories up.

No you don't think of that because the SNP have one cause and one cause only - independence. And now that has been blown out the water.

Blanca87 · 09/06/2017 13:24

Your lot???? Wow.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 09/06/2017 13:25

If Scottish Labour had a leader like Corbyn I would have voted Labour! Dugdale is a Tory in a red outfit. The fear campaign desperate to get rid of the SNP has worked, I get that, and it's time to forget about independence and work on how the fuck we're going through manage under a coalition who have views that most dictators would baulk at. Because that's what's happened, everyone was so busy trying to stop the SNP that they never saw the DUP coming.

MargotsDevil · 09/06/2017 13:25

With regard to the much lauded free university places... have you looked at the massive cuts to FE funding/places? There's an amazing correlation between the two.

Yes, the SNP are pro independence. However as the Scottish Government they have had ample opportunity to prove to the Scottish public that they are capable of doing just that - governing - but instead their entire focus is on Indyref2. Maybe once they do something about the shambles that is education (rather than just talk about it/dabble round the edges) I'd be prepared to take a chance on independence. Until then I am delighted to see some return to a more normal political spread within Scotland's MPs.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:26

When you refer to anyone with a differing opinion to you as having a "little point" to get across you embody all that I hate about the SNP. Ignorant, small minded and hell Ben the on a cause we clearly don't want. Imagine anyone having the audacity not to vote for your party of choice. Did it EVER occur to you that perhaps if Nicola had agreed a second referendum was not in Scotland's interest and agreed to call a halt to it then more people would have voted for her?

Absolutely spot on.

hellobonjour · 09/06/2017 13:26

saor

And the SNP only have themselves to blame.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 09/06/2017 13:27

I wasn't referring to anyone vote as a "little point" I was referring to the smug backslapping of everyone so happy to have stopped "Wee Nippy" in her tracks, without considering in the slightest how dangerous and potentially terrifying a Tory/DUP coalition is. Personally I think the time for independence isn't now, there are far more crucial and immediate things to discuss and try to work out.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 09/06/2017 13:27

My lot? ODFOD.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:28

Yes , they really need to take a long , hard look at themselves.

Boulshired · 09/06/2017 13:31

Scotland in theory cost labour 52 seats, it is only labour who can unseat torys. Scotland has got a U.K. Government they did vote for.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 09/06/2017 13:34

Agreed. People voting for tories to stop indyref2 let them in. (Again i am a labour voter not SNP)

MorrisZapp · 09/06/2017 13:35

But Kezia Dugdale wasn't standing, it was a Westminster election! I'm genuinely baffled by this. You had a chance to vote for an anti austerity candidate who was gaining momentum daily, but preferred to keep parochial squabbles front of mind. It wasn't a Scottish parliamentary election, you had a chance to boot the tories out of actual Westminster.

And I'm genuinely sorry if 'your lot' is a more offensive term than I realised. I take it back. I meant the SNP and their supporters.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 09/06/2017 13:37

Yes SNP supoirters could akso have booted Tories out.

And the Labour ones who gave Tories a protest vote because of indyref2.

All have sold us down the river.

scottishdiem · 09/06/2017 13:40

The pro-Tory vote in Scotland was surprising given Scots belief that they are somehow better than the rest of the UK when it comes to being more compassionate, less about austerity and more about people and generally feeling that community is more important that individual selfishness.

Whilst this has never actually been really true for everyone, I am glad that the true face of a lot of Scots has been exposed.

Belindabelle · 09/06/2017 13:43

I do think that some people are confused between the Westminster and Holyrood elections. I have had 2 people today wondering how Nicola Sturgeon did in her seat!
I didn't vote Labour to support K Dugdale as she wasn't standing either. My only concern was to get the Conservatives out and the only way to do that in a general election is to vote Labour. It's really not difficult.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 09/06/2017 13:48

No confusion here.

My only concern was to get the Conservatives out and the only way to do that in a general election is to vote Labour. It's really not difficult

My only concern was to reduce the number of SNP mps. I loathe the SNP and think they are doing a terrible job of governing Scotland. It's really not difficult.

FinallyThroughTheRoof · 09/06/2017 13:49

It's the MSPs who are governing us.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 09/06/2017 13:55

I voted SNP because our candidate has done a fantastic job locally, and I agree with the majority of her policies. Not because I hated someone else so much I voted to ignore everything else but getting rid of them.

Incidentally there's a Labour/Tory coalition in my local council, despite the SNP getting a majority and the first move they've made is cutting 198 classroom assistant positions. With 2 weeks notice of end of employment.