Former head of mi6 says Corbyn is a danger to the nation and wouldn't pass security vetting

[Sittinonthefloor]

Because of his terrorist links. That's pretty strong stuff! In today's telegraph. Behind a paywall though but the first few paragraphs are visible.

Th Henry Jackson Society is a neo-con pressure group. Not surprising that the author of this piece should hold these views, if he's a member.

Have you forgotten that the Conservatives caused Brexit op?

Ffs. The London attackers were dangers to the nation. The Manchester bomber was a danger to the nation. All those connected to those plots and condoning extremism are dangers to the nation.

Corbyn is an MP, a part of the democratic process and has been for years. I do have concerns about how whether he'd prioritise foreign cultural 'values' over women's lives, exactly how many more immigrants are needed before Britain's population is considered too high and food security comes to the fore, and when the heck are we going to get more funding for regular armed services - all concerns that, oh look, I have right now with the Tories in power. Corbyn a 'danger to the nation'??

It just shows how people get promoted way beyond their ability to remember their original purpose.

Maria Gatland, Tory councillor in Croydon is a former member of the IRA. She stepped down and was suspended from the Tory Party about 10 years ago, but later welcomed back into the fold.

Actually there is a Tory MP who was a member of the IRA can't recall her blooming name, she was on t.v about 3 weeks ago and would not answer any questions put to her.

That's the one!

I should have added my concerns about the number of people living off foodbanks, being sanctioned off benefits, not getting to rapidly diminishing health services in time, being made homeless -how long will they survive on the streets - and well, you get the drift. All issues raised by Corbyn.

The question before us today is who do you think might be able to think up new solutions and keep as many lives going as possible. Why all this terror of an old 'geography teacher' man?

No, Maria Gatland is a Tory councillor in Croydon. She was "cabinet member for education" in the local council, but stepped down after her links to the IRA (from 1972) received media attention. All very easily findable on Google (I posted her wikipedia entry upthread)

Well if it's in the Telegraph it must be true right?

Oh well none the less a Tory. So its OK for MG to have been a member of a terrorist group in her past but JC who has never been a member but just talks to them is not OK. Pfffft!

Well if it's in the Telegraph it must be true right?
Yes - just like the Guardian, the Canary, that Angry twat.

Politically skewed propaganda does go both ways... how come the left is too intelligent to fall for it apparently while falling for it

If you believe something political in the papers, whichever political leaning they have, then you are a bit of a twat.

Have you forgotten that the Conservatives caused Brexit op

No. No. The "cause" of Brexit was democracy. It was a democratic process.

The VOTERS 'caused' Brexit. And not because they are:

Thick
Racist
Turkeys voting for Christmas
Evil
Gullible

Or any of the myriad insults thrown around on here at people who don't subscribe to the left wing Remain ideaology

And I voted remain but seeing the shite that was thrown around on here wish I hadn't

The Conservatives offered the referendum to win votes in the last election.

Sorry that wasn't to you Tiger

Also funny that people believe anything negative about the Tories while refusing to believe anything bad about Labour. Lack of critical thinking?

JC could be caught in the most shocking scandal ever and most people on here would still think he was framed. Ironically that kind of messianic crap is why some won't vote for him in the real world

They did - and the people chose.

That's democracy - all sides are legitimate, just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them thick or ill informed

How is Remain left wing? Both David Cameron and Theresa May were remainers.

"And I voted remain but seeing the shite that was thrown around on here wish I hadn't"

So you wish you had voted differently on the single most significant economic and political issue of our generation in the U.K. because some people were disobliging on Mumsnet?????? You can't possibly mean that........

'just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them thick or ill informed'

You are saying that - not me.

I voted remain because I struggled to decide.

I was using hyperbole but frankly I was disgusted by the shit that was thrown around by a lot of the Remain camp. People still start threads that they are still crying about it and accusing everyone who voted exit of being evil.

And yes the accusations that those evil right wing people are brain washing their supporters who are too dim to realise it whereas anyone else is well informed is actually almost funny.

All sides talk bollocks and throw propaganda.

It just seems like people can't accept that it's not just the scary Tories doing it

And by the way, the names I have seen people called (on both sides but largely remain, presumably because they lost) is more than 'disobliging'

"And by the way, the names I have seen people called (on both sides but largely remain, presumably because they lost) is more than 'disobliging'"

Fair enough. But seriously. Changing you mind on a massive issue like that because people throw insults around? That really is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Middlenglandlives its because of the fear of the unknown, a bit like me every morning when the postman comes, the fear of the PIPS form.

Personally, I would like to think that there is a pathway for anyone involved in terrorism related activity to move on and be part of main stream society (because I'm a bit of a liberal lefty who believes in rehabilitation). So - without knowing the ins and outs of the Maria Gatland case - someone who was involved in the IRA in the early 1970s but has since turned her back on them should not, in my opinion, be barred from holding public office for ever and a day.

I do, however, draw a distinction between people who have something knocking around in their past but have moved on; and people who have more recently said or done troubling things and / or people who appear to be reluctant to condemn terrorism without reservation

Totally agree Oleana.