To try and persuade you not to vote Tory.

[MissBax]

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/05/31/the-nayler-report-nhs-privatisation-by-the-back-door/

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/naylor-report-tory-nhs-privatisation-healthcare-flog-off-conservatives-theresa-may-election-2017-a7766326.html

www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-property-and-estates-naylor-review

I am totally and shamelessly begging people not to vote for Theresa May.
Amongst a host of other reasons (education, policing, housing, pay etc), she has confirmed she fully backs the selling off of the NHS.
Follow link above for the full Naylor Review.

He reminds me of the Liberal activists my parents were involved with in the 80s and his policies speak for themselves. I have read the 4 main manifestos (there's a few hours of my life I'll not get back) and I think everyone should. Maybe they should test you at the polling station to check you have properly researched what you're voting for instead of just going on headlines.

I'm so so sick of people saying JC is a shambles, not electable etc. It's a load of rubbish , people have clearly been reading far too much media that is funded by right wing corporations/ millionaires e.g. Rupert Murdoch etc.

How often does this have to be trotted out.

I am not brainwashed. I can think for myself.

I will not vote Labour whilst he is in charge.

Yes because anyone who worships JC is sensible and anyone who doesn't is stupid. That's how it goes on here I think.

Frankiestein401. Thanks for proving my point. You have no evidence, but are prepared to smear a vast number of people nevertheless. Good job.

I'm so so sick of people saying JC is a shambles, not electable etc. It's a load of rubbish , people have clearly been reading far too much media that is funded by right wing corporations/ millionaires e.g. Rupert Murdoch etc.

Nope, and this argument is getting a little tired, to counter your point i would say maybe stretch your reading past the canary and independent

I'm voting Tory at 0700 tomorrow and hope I don't miss my train.
Persuade away petal. I could sit here and type all of the shit labour did after the 01 May 1997, but I won't because THANKFULLY we live in a country where we are free to vote for who I WANT, not you.

angelcakesrocks

The most worrying thing about this election is how blinkered people are. You SHOULD be able to criticise ALL politicians. ALL of them including JC, TM, even little Tim Farron. They should absolutely NOT be sacred cows.

What about rather than just saying that the NHS is safer under labour because they'll give more money to the NHS and taking that as gospel because doctors and nurses say so why don't we actually think a bit more broadly and recognise that there's more to this.

Here's a scenario:

You go to the hospital for an appointment. You check in using an automated system such as in most GP surgery. (Saving on reception staff)

You have your appointment and the doctor takes your blood there and then saving you a trip down to the blood waiting area

They then tell you that they'd like to see you again in 6 weeks and books you in there and then

Rather than you chasing up test results they are emailed rather than bloody faxed to your specialist. Everyone whose results are fine or needs a brief discussion gets a phone consultation and any medication is emailed over to your nominated pharmacist where you pick it up.

What currently happens

You go to your appointment and spend 0 minutes in a queue to let the receptionist know you are there.

You go in to see the doctor who says they'd like you to have a blood test and to see you again in 6 weeks

You spend another 20 minutes waiting to make an appointment with the receptionist

Then you go down to the bloods area and spend 15 minutes waiting to have your bloods taken

2 weeks later you are still waiting for results but they haven't been faxed over yet and your GP only gives blood results on the second Tuesday of the month between 8am and 8.01am so you wait even longer to find out they're fine but that you do need a new prescription

So you go down to the GP and spend 2 hours waiting for an appointment or take the one in 3 Wednesday's time at 2pm when you'll have to take even more leave to just get a prescription which you then take to the pharmacist who hasn't got it in stock but can get it by Thursday afternoon meaning you'll have to wait even longer

Of course people think that the NHS is short staffed but it's because it's so inefficient. It needs a total overhaul not money to keep doing exactly the same

Lynnm the new Home Secretary is called Lyn Brown.

Sorry - shadow Home Secretary!

There are plenty of social healthcare systems, particularly in Europe.
The NHS needs reform and has been slowly privatised since pre Tory times.
The NHS isn't anything better than many other countries and I don't see the point of defending it without criticism. It has been hugely abused by the public and now needs reform.
If labour get in they will continue with the process.

Lyn Brown.

She was quite the advocate of the living wage publicly whilst she sacked her employee and and hired an unpaid intern..

Just think of the outcry from the vocal left on MN if that was a tory...

You can try but I'm voting Tory in the morning. I voted brexit too, along with over half the nation. Not going to justify my reasons. I'd like a free unicorn and a money tree as much as the next person but then I woke up.

BamBam yes but that was Labour in its Tory lite form, run by Labour stalwarts who all hate JC

To late OP, my Conservative postal vote went off last week. I live in what has always been a Tory safe seat but I've heard more and more people saying they'll vote Labour so there was no way I was wasting my vote on the Lib Dems or Greens.

Oh and by the way, I'm neither rich or stupid, I just wouldn't dream of voting Labour with Corbyn, Abott, McDonnell etc.

I'm afraid after Blair I wouldn't dream of voting Labour.

Laughable that Labour is the party of the NHS. Our biggest NHS trust was built under PFI agreed by Blair. It is now almost bankrupt and it cant afford the equipment to perform standard procedures or protect its IT systems from the recent ransomware attack which caused chaos.

Agree the PFI agreement is a total scandle and rip off.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-poll-latest-tory-win-results-corbyn-theresa-may-a7777781.html%3Famp

Ginster, exactly. I'm not sure I believe the OP even works in the NHS, but if she does she's either knowingly lying or completely ignorant of her own organisation.

The Naylor Review unequivocally does not contain any suggestion of selling off Trusts. Completely untrue.

A quite respected poll that isn't in a tory love in has put the tories with an even larger majority than the independents poll

twitter.com/election_data/status/87250942033644749

I mean we are not going to find out properly, but it doesn't look like its going to be close either way

Bill it's not possible to sell off a Trust. The NHS is inefficient and any decent trust sees that and is advocating new ways of working without losing clinical staff. Over the last few years street triage teams have been assisting the police which reduces unnecessary sections and avoids people with mental illness being detained in cells, liaison psychiatry teams have been setup to help those in general hospitals both in wards and in a+e get specialist help and assistance with care packages which has helped avoid bed blocking. This isn't anecdotal it is fact

Yes

Plus I already voted

@grins - I'm one of the 5% though not in the 200k bracket - I work in an industry chock full of ir35 contractors - I have worked in the past with two major banks - I can only reference my experience of colleagues boasting how little tax they pay - Mrsjames comments are typical - last year the top 4 uk banks had a bonus pool over 4bn - traders are not on paye.

frank

I thought grins was saying that those on PAYE couldnt avoid tax

Self employed are always able to try more errrrmmmm, evasive action