to wonder why MN is so let wing

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That's it really; MN seems to be overwhelmingly Labour leaning and that's not obviously indicative of the country as a whole, and I'm under the impression that MN covers a very wide social/ economic spectrum so you'd think it would be more representative of the electorate a s a whole
Rational non insulting reasons would be good

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It's odd isn't it Leader? "We are the caring, inclusive, tolerant party and if you don't vote for us, you are a despicable person everyone should shun".

It makes me so sad. When I was young, the left tried to gain votes by pursuading and educating and supporting various causes. Now so much of it is just emotional blackmail. Really distructive.

"I have seen very few insults of any kind aimed Labour voters as a whole."

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I agree regarding titles or themes or threads

But there have been loads of insults aimed at both sides

Makes me glad that i dont intend voting for either of those parties as they dont seem to be able to play nice

They need to be sent to seperate corners to think about their attitude

Yes I had a wry chortle at that too. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

agree Rufus time out to reflect! Or perhaps we just need PR!

I think PR is the way to go nolottery

I don't think MN is left wing. I expect there are plenty of Tory voters, like me, who are put off from saying so by the baying labour crowd.

Shy Tories, a term used for people who don't fancy receiving a torrent of abuse. I guess Labour voters feel morally superior in caring for 'the people', when in fact the majority only care for a small percentage of the people. I would guess that they genuinely don't give a toss about anyone who's doing ok.

It's seems that the worthier you feel, the more likely you are to shout about it. My Facebook page is absolutely flooded with left wing rhetoric and abuse. Hillarious memes about the Cuntservatives. Telling us Tories that we will be defriended and shunned if we are discovered. So I kept my political views to myself in RL, and quietly put my X in the Conservative tick box this morning, no drama.

If Labour manage to get into power tomorrow, of all the fairy tale endings they are promising, I do hope they stick to the more police on the streets promise, because we'll need them.

And one day the NHS will be privatised whoever is in charge, it will have to be. It cannot cope any more. And I will struggle to pay for that, but I'm sadly resigned to it.

Why do you criticise Labour posters for apparently saying they are morally superior, Yet then say you are morally superior?

So much hypocrisy here.

I didn't say I was morally superior. I said Labour voters seemed to feel that they were.

Then you pretty much said you were.

Oh, Hi monkey come to rejoin the Tory wankathon?

Err no thanks I'll pass

You have fun though

answering the op - Probably because being right wing (and definitely as right wing as the tories have got) is bordering on morally wrong, cruel, selfish, brainless, unthinking, ruled by the media, scared of your own shadow etc and mumsnetters have a bit more brains than that

Its a really depressing read this thread. Its like an angry dysfunctional relationship in its final stages before splitting up.

Genuinely I'm sad that so many people vote for policies that will cause so much anguish generally for people who already suffer. That said, I don't blame people, I know most people are trying to do the right thing in their own eyes. Our media sources have spun this so much that people are taken in by seriously flawed economic arguments and unchallenged lies I have a couple of friends who vote very differently to me and we are still friends as I'd rather talk about our differences than alienate each other and live in an echo chamber regardless of how much despair I feel. Just very sad today that we don't all care about our fellow human beings that bit more, in terms of the policies we vote for and how we treat those we want to convince around to our way of thinking. Peace and love everyone.

i feel it's sad that so many of us feel it's an all or nothing, them vs us choice. FPTP has got to go...

mumsnetters have a bit more brains than that

I have the anatomically correct amount of brains thank you . And I will never vote Labour with their current shambles of leader/shadow cabinet members.

But you see Lubey I just want to scream at your post that you are as equally deluded if you believe all the crap from the left wing media and twitter/facebook and think that all Conservative voters are evil, baby-eating monsters.

I believe just as strongly that being left wing (and definitely as left wing as JC is trying to make the Labour party) is wrong, ignorant, unfair, brainless, unthinking, ruled by angry mob mentality, perpetuated by bullies (in trade unions and on social media) and I wholeheartedly believe that there are LOTS of highly intelligent MNers who feel the same, but have just been reluctant to be drawn into the fray precisely because of the ridiculous name-calling and inability to understand that perfectly decent people could possibly just hold different views to you without being evil mass murderers ?

FWIW I don't agree with all the Tory policies. £8bn isn't enough for the NHS, but £30bn is a la la land figure. Same with some other policies.

But on balance, faced with the choices available, I find that my values more closely align with the Conservatives. And I only have to read posts like yours to validate that decision for me.

Enjoying all the sneering at my comment that there are few insults aimed at Labour voters as a whole and then along comes lubey with this little gem

answering the op - Probably because being right wing (and definitely as right wing as the tories have got) is bordering on morally wrong, cruel, selfish, brainless, unthinking, ruled by the media, scared of your own shadow etc and mumsnetters have a bit more brains than that

Yes, six of one, half a dozen of the other, isn't it?

If I could be bothered I would do a tab of insults on all the threads by number and nastiness, but I can't be bothered because it is ompletely obvious what the result would be.

"But on balance, faced with the choices available, I find that my values more closely align with the Conservatives."
Ok- that is absolutely fair enough.

"And I only have to read posts like yours to validate that decision for me."
This, however, is completely baffling. If your values align more closely with the Conservatives, how on earth can the manners, or lack thereof, of the other side make a blind bit of difference?

"If I could be bothered I would do a tab of insults on all the threads by number and nastiness, but I can't be bothered because it is ompletely obvious what the result would be."

I agree with you. Completely obvious. I've lost track of the number of times I've been called a terrorist apologist during this campaign.

Well the example you gave on this or another thread Bertrand of someone calling you a terrorist apologist, which you c&p'd, as I remember other posters interpreted as the poster saying you would disagree on the methods which will stop terrorism, not calling you a terrorist apologist.